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We were on the February 13th sailing of the Coral Princess for a 10 day Panama Cruise from Fort Lauderdale. Not taking any chances with winter weather, we left Halifax on the Feb 10th and had no problems reaching Florida. We had chosen the Comfort Inn near Saw Grass Mills for a few days which gave us an opportunity to do some pre-cruise shopping. A few visits to Lauderdale-by-the Sea for beach walks, shopping til you drop at Saw Grass Mills and great eating at places like Outback and Cheddars saw three days pass quickly. Cruise Critic Friends www.cruisecritic.com We joined a February 10th thread/chat group, started many months ago by Dogasia (Lynn) from Orlando. The group of forty or more participants had become cyber friends by the time sailing day rolled around. We were a diverse group ranging in age from 29 - 70 from Canada and the US. We had agreed to meet shortly after the ship sailed and for a formal "meet & greet" on Day 2 in the Wheelhouse Bar. On our final check of our thread the day before we sailed, we learned that there would be a four to six hour delay in boarding Coral because of the number of Norwalk virus cases on the prior cruise. The ship would undergo a thorough sanitization before it would leave. We called the Princess hotline and this was confirmed. So we ended up having another few hours in the sunshine before returning our rental car to the airport and grabbing a shuttle to Port Everglades. There were about eight of us on the Shuttle and three are fellow CC er's. Linda and Charlie from St. Louis and Linda from Ontario. Princess took our luggage from the Shuttle and we were on to checking in. Everything is running smoothly but we were unprepared for the sheer numbers when we arrived upstairs in the assembly area. Many were unaware of the delay and had arrived at noon. Princess did their best to provide food and a few shuttles to the Mall for those individuals but for the most part it was hurry up and wait to board. Lines formed, groups were called and eventually we did start boarding shortly before 5:00 pm. Once the process started, things moved along as well as could be expected. If the extra precautions meant the ship was taking the extra precautions for our benefit then so be it. The other option could have been canceling the cruise or a further delay and missing an destination. Once on board we checked out our cabin; luggage hadn't been delivered so it was off to explore the Ship. Arriving on Deck 14, the first two folks we meet are acquaintances from our home city. What a small world. Having sailed on the Dawn and the Crown, the Coral didn't hold any surprises. Sail away happened sometime after 8:00 pm while we were enjoying Dinner in the Dining Room. After a relaxing dinner it was back to the room to unpack. Saturday & Sunday are sea days: Saturday is Valentine's Day and the Atrium is being decorated with a huge display for the occasion and the first of two formal nights. I had read on cruise critic about a coffee card so I made the first of my morning visits to the Atrium's coffee bar with my Princess coffee thermos mug that comes with the card. Memories of the terrible coffee at Horizon were no more. The coffee card entitles you to fifteen specialty coffees and unlimited regular brewed coffee from the cafe. If you do not use your 15 espressos or lattes you can redeem them on your next cruise. Not a bad deal for $35. I have six left on my card. Our pre-arranged Cruise Critic meeting was scheduled for 11 am in the Wheelhouse Lounge. About 40 fellow cc'ers were present. Captain Roger Bilton, the staff captain and cruise director Frank all came to welcome us, made remarks and answered questions. About twenty of us had arranged for a gift exchange which involved drawing random numbers and selecting a gift from another cc'er. Gifts were opened and for the most part reflected an item(s) from the giver's home town. Great conversation for more than hour and instantly we had become friends with a great number of fellow cruisers. We enjoyed most of our luncheons in the "anytime" dining room, the Bordeaux on the Plaza Deck. Our first cruise had been on NCL where the norm is anytime dining. While I know many cruisers enjoy traditional dining, we would never consider such an arrangement. I just could not imagine not being able to enjoy meeting the many varied folks you get to chat with during meal time and share cruise and life experiences. That being said, we found on this cruise we shared lunch and dinner with the same individuals on several occasions, quite by accident rather than good planning. We did not have one negative dining experience. There is an interesting thread here on the message boards where many dining room horror stories are told. Some of our fellow cc'ers did have some rather unpleasant table mates we learned. It would be interesting to know if cruisers are trending away from "traditional dining". Day 4 - Aruba: Monday we docked in Aruba at 7:00 am. coincidentally, this was our last port of call in 2008 on the Crown. We had fond memories of this very clean and friendly island. Having spent most of our prior visit on Eagle Beach, we planned a short tour before doing a bit of shopping. As soon as we hit the gate we were approached by Willie, who had a very clean and comfortable van for six and was available for a sightseeing tour. Another couple from Texas were willing to share the ride and for $30 each got out ahead of the waiting tour buses and made our way around the "Happy Island" with Willie giving us history and personal anecdotes as we drove the 19 mile long and six mile wide Dutch paradise. Not to undermine the organized tours by the cruise lines, we prefer to arrange our own personal tour with a guide or share with a small group. There is much more flexibility and you do not have the wait to get on or off the bigger buses. There is also a monetary saving. Back in Oranjestad at 9:30 am we still had two hours to shop. We found Larry (Larry's Fine Jewelry) on Haven Straat #17, picked up some Canada Dry and aloe sun balm at the market and walked back to the ship. It would have been great to have had the afternoon to enjoy the beach but the ship was sailing at 1:00 pm. This was one of a few disappointments with this particular itinerary. Day 5 - Cartegena, Columbia: Tuesday would be an early day as we had pre-booked an organized tour with fellow cruise critics for 9:00 am. There were three cruise ships in port so a pre-arranged tour was a good idea. There were 15 of us in a very comfortable minibus with owner Dora of Dora's Tours. As we made our way through the city to La Popa, an old monastery and shrine, we heard about local history. The view from La Popa is breathtaking. We then went to the Fort for a photo stop. This was followed by a walk around the walled area admiring the houses and plazas. We stopped at the Dungeons and the handcraft shops before making our way to the church of San Pedro Claver. We then had a leisurely drive back to the ship going through the new city along the bay making a brief stop at a small shopping center for some columbian coffee and souvenirs. It was a very quick 5 hours. Dora was a great guide and I would recommend her tour to other cruisers. The only downside to this port is the "in your face" souvenir, craft and merchandise sellers. At every stop you encounter countless folk who have the same products everywhere you go. The sail away from Cartegena was at 3:00 pm, again two or three hours earlier than we liked. That evening we chose to dine at Sabatini's, one of two specialty restaurants on the Coral. Not that one tires of the dining room or buffet choices on the Ship, the specialty restaurant experience is a treat not to be missed. At Sabatini's you are asked to make a "main" dining choice. For me it was lobster tails and my wife chose the giant sea scallops. The rest of the food (18 other portions) are brought to your table. Breads, pasta, soup, salad, vegetables, desert are served over the course of the three hour culinary experience. While the bill is $20 pp, this dinner at any other restaurant would garner a $100 bill per person. I had put my name in for the Chef's Table when we sailed but because of the noro situation, this dining experience was not offered on this cruise. Day 6 - Panama Canal: Wednesday's itinerary was the reason most folks take this cruise so if one were to get the real "canal experience" you had to be on deck early. We were told we would be approaching the first set of locks at about 6:00 am. The ship took a full two hours to go through the locks. The length was probably less than one kilometer as the ship was literally pulled through by locomotive (mules) engines. It's a fascinating process to watch for the first time. Commentary was provided on the PA system in the Horizon dining room where most who didn't have a balcony cabin watch. Many stake their chairs out early to get the best window seats. I found a small balcony area just outside the Horizon's emergency exit. I couldn't hear the commentary but it was a good vantage point. After the Ship gets through the final set of locks you are in Gatun Lake where the ship anchors and tenders take the passengers, who have land tours arranged, ashore. The rest of us simply enjoy another day on deck. At noon, you prepare for the trip back through the locks to the ocean. For this journey we were on deck 14 at the front of this ship. This gave a different perspective. We were followed through the Canal by the Island Princess, which was doing a cruise from Los Angeles to Lauderdale. This added to the excitement and made for some great pictures as this similar size ship followed us through. I understand the bill for the Coral to go through the Canal was $330,000 or $167.00 for each person on the cruise. In less than two hours we were on our way to Cristobal. We were only here for three hours. It was a cloudy, humid day. The ship docks at an old warehouse where there is some shopping and entertainment. It was the least pleasant of all stops. You really do not have anytime to do anything other than find a souvenir and are relieved to get back on board the ship. Since we didn't have much lunch, we decided this might be a good day to go to Afternoon Tea. Finger sandwiches, scones with jam and cream and other finger deserts are served most afternoons for 45 minutes in the Dining Room. If planning had been better, a quick jaunt into Cristobal may have given a better impression. Day 7 - Limon - Costa Rica: On Thursday, we docked at 6:30 am to another mostly cloudy day. The beautiful AIDA Aura ship from Germany docked alongside us. We had another pre-arranged five hour tour with our cruise critic friends. This was with "Oscar Tours". There were fifteen of us so 11 traveled in a minivan with Oscar and four followed in a taxi with Allan. Allan was a friendly type who gave us a running commentary along the way. Roads are not in great shape through the city nor in the countryside. This was by far the poorest of the ports we saw. Many depend on tourism for a living. Along the tour we stopped in a number of places where youngsters with animals would want to be photographed for a tip; other roadside stops offered fresh fruit or local crafts. Poverty is very evident. We made a fifteen minute stop at an acquaintance of the tour operator. This person took care of a small farm where we saw how the locals live. He had a pet sloth and other creatures that made for a few Kodak moments. On to the Del Monte Banana plantation for a tour. This was followed by a one hour canal ride in a covered boat. We were able to see local wildlife, rainforest vegetation and other attractions including a young boy and his sister who had two alligators (more pictures - more tips). Beer, water, cola were provided. A short drive later we were back to Limon where were picked up some Costa Rican coffee beans and then back to the ship. All in all, a five hour tour for $50 left some lasting memories. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend Oscar & Allan. Day 8 - At Sea: Friday would be a day to relax at sea. The Coral has a Library where I had taken out a few books on Day 2. This would be a full reading day on deck and would be formal night #2. For repeat Princess Cruisers it was also the night Captain Roger Bilton hosted the Captain's Circle. After getting our formal pictures taken we went to the 7:15 pm reception before Dinner. There were 1,081 cruisers in the Captain's Circle on this cruise. Lobster tails and Beef Wellington were on the menu. Day 9 - Ocho Rios, Jamaica: Saturday 's visit was to Ocho Rios, just 90 miles south of Cuba. Only 16,000 people live here of the Island's 2.8 million population. A very scenic, clean and touristy town, the Coral was docked in what seemed like the center of town. Not having been to Jamaica, we wanted to see both the town and some of the Island. We found Terance, a Jutta tour guide just outside the gate and off we went for three hours. We chose not to go to Dunn's River Falls but rather did a drive through Fern Gully to Cayoga Gardens, to a Pottery Factory , met some local characters along the way before being dropped off at the Jamaican Grand. $25 each,a tip and a few photo tips along with a $5 admission to the gardens wasn't bad for the morning. After spending an hour at the Grand we walked back to the Coral. Had a quick lunch at KFC and did some shopping at many of the shops that line the main street. Managed to get a good deal on Blue Mountain Coffee and some Jamaican liqueurs to bring home. Day 10 - At Sea: Sunday would be the last cruise day. The sun was in the sky and a light sea breeze was blowing. The day was spent on deck, lunch with our cruise critic group, an afternoon of packing and a New Orleans culinary experience at The Bayou that evening. The fare was Bayou themed including an appetizer that featured alligator ribs (looked like chicken with a pork, beef texture). We both had the beef tenderloin that I would describe as one of the best, if not the best, steak I've ever eaten. For $15 pp, it was a dining experience to remember and a delightful way to end the cruise. Other notes: We went to seven or eight shows in the Princess Theatre and Universal Lounge. Kevin Hughes (comedian) gave a good show. The Motor City and Tribute musicals were enjoyable. The disembarkation went much smoothly than on any other cruise. Thanks for serving breakfast was in the Dining Room. We were off the Coral by 8:30 am and at our Hotel 15 minutes later for a final day in Fort Lauderdale that included a canal tour on the Jungle Queen.. Of the three Princess Cruises we've taken, I would rate this behind the Crown (Caribbean) and Dawn (Mexican Riviera). The dining room food was not as well prepared or presented, service not quite as friendly and the entertainment was mediocre. Perhaps the Norovirus had everyone on edge. We would have liked longer port times. We find a 10 day cruise to be a good length. Cruises are great vacation travel value. Looking forward to a Mediterranean Cruise sometime soon.

Pamama For Valentines 09

Coral Princess Cruise Review by jdavid

Trip Details
We were on the February 13th sailing of the Coral Princess for a 10 day Panama Cruise from Fort Lauderdale. Not taking any chances with winter weather, we left Halifax on the Feb 10th and had no problems reaching Florida. We had chosen the Comfort Inn near Saw Grass Mills for a few days which gave us an opportunity to do some pre-cruise shopping. A few visits to Lauderdale-by-the Sea for beach walks, shopping til you drop at Saw Grass Mills and great eating at places like Outback and Cheddars saw three days pass quickly.
Cruise Critic Friends www.cruisecritic.com We joined a February 10th thread/chat group, started many months ago by Dogasia (Lynn) from Orlando. The group of forty or more participants had become cyber friends by the time sailing day rolled around.
We were a diverse group ranging in age from 29 - 70 from Canada and the US. We had agreed to meet shortly after the ship sailed and for a formal "meet & greet" on Day 2 in the Wheelhouse Bar. On our final check of our thread the day before we sailed, we learned that there would be a four to six hour delay in boarding Coral because of the number of Norwalk virus cases on the prior cruise. The ship would undergo a thorough sanitization before it would leave. We called the Princess hotline and this was confirmed. So we ended up having another few hours in the sunshine before returning our rental car to the airport and grabbing a shuttle to Port Everglades. There were about eight of us on the Shuttle and three are fellow CC er's. Linda and Charlie from St. Louis and Linda from Ontario.
Princess took our luggage from the Shuttle and we were on to checking in. Everything is running smoothly but we were unprepared for the sheer numbers when we arrived upstairs in the assembly area. Many were unaware of the delay and had arrived at noon. Princess did their best to provide food and a few shuttles to the Mall for those individuals but for the most part it was hurry up and wait to board. Lines formed, groups were called and eventually we did start boarding shortly before 5:00 pm. Once the process started, things moved along as well as could be expected. If the extra precautions meant the ship was taking the extra precautions for our benefit then so be it. The other option could have been canceling the cruise or a further delay and missing an destination.
Once on board we checked out our cabin; luggage hadn't been delivered so it was off to explore the Ship. Arriving on Deck 14, the first two folks we meet are acquaintances from our home city. What a small world. Having sailed on the Dawn and the Crown, the Coral didn't hold any surprises. Sail away happened sometime after 8:00 pm while we were enjoying Dinner in the Dining Room. After a relaxing dinner it was back to the room to unpack.
Saturday & Sunday are sea days: Saturday is Valentine's Day and the Atrium is being decorated with a huge display for the occasion and the first of two formal nights. I had read on cruise critic about a coffee card so I made the first of my morning visits to the Atrium's coffee bar with my Princess coffee thermos mug that comes with the card. Memories of the terrible coffee at Horizon were no more. The coffee card entitles you to fifteen specialty coffees and unlimited regular brewed coffee from the cafe. If you do not use your 15 espressos or lattes you can redeem them on your next cruise. Not a bad deal for $35. I have six left on my card.
Our pre-arranged Cruise Critic meeting was scheduled for 11 am in the Wheelhouse Lounge. About 40 fellow cc'ers were present. Captain Roger Bilton, the staff captain and cruise director Frank all came to welcome us, made remarks and answered questions. About twenty of us had arranged for a gift exchange which involved drawing random numbers and selecting a gift from another cc'er. Gifts were opened and for the most part reflected an item(s) from the giver's home town. Great conversation for more than hour and instantly we had become friends with a great number of fellow cruisers.
We enjoyed most of our luncheons in the "anytime" dining room, the Bordeaux on the Plaza Deck. Our first cruise had been on NCL where the norm is anytime dining. While I know many cruisers enjoy traditional dining, we would never consider such an arrangement. I just could not imagine not being able to enjoy meeting the many varied folks you get to chat with during meal time and share cruise and life experiences. That being said, we found on this cruise we shared lunch and dinner with the same individuals on several occasions, quite by accident rather than good planning. We did not have one negative dining experience. There is an interesting thread here on the message boards where many dining room horror stories are told. Some of our fellow cc'ers did have some rather unpleasant table mates we learned. It would be interesting to know if cruisers are trending away from "traditional dining".
Day 4 - Aruba: Monday we docked in Aruba at 7:00 am. coincidentally, this was our last port of call in 2008 on the Crown. We had fond memories of this very clean and friendly island. Having spent most of our prior visit on Eagle Beach, we planned a short tour before doing a bit of shopping. As soon as we hit the gate we were approached by Willie, who had a very clean and comfortable van for six and was available for a sightseeing tour. Another couple from Texas were willing to share the ride and for $30 each got out ahead of the waiting tour buses and made our way around the "Happy Island" with Willie giving us history and personal anecdotes as we drove the 19 mile long and six mile wide Dutch paradise. Not to undermine the organized tours by the cruise lines, we prefer to arrange our own personal tour with a guide or share with a small group. There is much more flexibility and you do not have the wait to get on or off the bigger buses. There is also a monetary saving. Back in Oranjestad at 9:30 am we still had two hours to shop. We found Larry (Larry's Fine Jewelry) on Haven Straat #17, picked up some Canada Dry and aloe sun balm at the market and walked back to the ship. It would have been great to have had the afternoon to enjoy the beach but the ship was sailing at 1:00 pm. This was one of a few disappointments with this particular itinerary.
Day 5 - Cartegena, Columbia: Tuesday would be an early day as we had pre-booked an organized tour with fellow cruise critics for 9:00 am. There were three cruise ships in port so a pre-arranged tour was a good idea. There were 15 of us in a very comfortable minibus with owner Dora of Dora's Tours. As we made our way through the city to La Popa, an old monastery and shrine, we heard about local history. The view from La Popa is breathtaking. We then went to the Fort for a photo stop. This was followed by a walk around the walled area admiring the houses and plazas. We stopped at the Dungeons and the handcraft shops before making our way to the church of San Pedro Claver. We then had a leisurely drive back to the ship going through the new city along the bay making a brief stop at a small shopping center for some columbian coffee and souvenirs. It was a very quick 5 hours. Dora was a great guide and I would recommend her tour to other cruisers. The only downside to this port is the "in your face" souvenir, craft and merchandise sellers. At every stop you encounter countless folk who have the same products everywhere you go. The sail away from Cartegena was at 3:00 pm, again two or three hours earlier than we liked.
That evening we chose to dine at Sabatini's, one of two specialty restaurants on the Coral. Not that one tires of the dining room or buffet choices on the Ship, the specialty restaurant experience is a treat not to be missed. At Sabatini's you are asked to make a "main" dining choice. For me it was lobster tails and my wife chose the giant sea scallops. The rest of the food (18 other portions) are brought to your table. Breads, pasta, soup, salad, vegetables, desert are served over the course of the three hour culinary experience. While the bill is $20 pp, this dinner at any other restaurant would garner a $100 bill per person. I had put my name in for the Chef's Table when we sailed but because of the noro situation, this dining experience was not offered on this cruise.
Day 6 - Panama Canal: Wednesday's itinerary was the reason most folks take this cruise so if one were to get the real "canal experience" you had to be on deck early. We were told we would be approaching the first set of locks at about 6:00 am. The ship took a full two hours to go through the locks. The length was probably less than one kilometer as the ship was literally pulled through by locomotive (mules) engines. It's a fascinating process to watch for the first time. Commentary was provided on the PA system in the Horizon dining room where most who didn't have a balcony cabin watch. Many stake their chairs out early to get the best window seats. I found a small balcony area just outside the Horizon's emergency exit. I couldn't hear the commentary but it was a good vantage point. After the Ship gets through the final set of locks you are in Gatun Lake where the ship anchors and tenders take the passengers, who have land tours arranged, ashore. The rest of us simply enjoy another day on deck. At noon, you prepare for the trip back through the locks to the ocean. For this journey we were on deck 14 at the front of this ship. This gave a different perspective. We were followed through the Canal by the Island Princess, which was doing a cruise from Los Angeles to Lauderdale. This added to the excitement and made for some great pictures as this similar size ship followed us through. I understand the bill for the Coral to go through the Canal was $330,000 or $167.00 for each person on the cruise. In less than two hours we were on our way to Cristobal. We were only here for three hours. It was a cloudy, humid day. The ship docks at an old warehouse where there is some shopping and entertainment. It was the least pleasant of all stops. You really do not have anytime to do anything other than find a souvenir and are relieved to get back on board the ship. Since we didn't have much lunch, we decided this might be a good day to go to Afternoon Tea. Finger sandwiches, scones with jam and cream and other finger deserts are served most afternoons for 45 minutes in the Dining Room. If planning had been better, a quick jaunt into Cristobal may have given a better impression.
Day 7 - Limon - Costa Rica: On Thursday, we docked at 6:30 am to another mostly cloudy day. The beautiful AIDA Aura ship from Germany docked alongside us. We had another pre-arranged five hour tour with our cruise critic friends. This was with "Oscar Tours". There were fifteen of us so 11 traveled in a minivan with Oscar and four followed in a taxi with Allan. Allan was a friendly type who gave us a running commentary along the way. Roads are not in great shape through the city nor in the countryside. This was by far the poorest of the ports we saw. Many depend on tourism for a living. Along the tour we stopped in a number of places where youngsters with animals would want to be photographed for a tip; other roadside stops offered fresh fruit or local crafts. Poverty is very evident. We made a fifteen minute stop at an acquaintance of the tour operator. This person took care of a small farm where we saw how the locals live. He had a pet sloth and other creatures that made for a few Kodak moments. On to the Del Monte Banana plantation for a tour. This was followed by a one hour canal ride in a covered boat. We were able to see local wildlife, rainforest vegetation and other attractions including a young boy and his sister who had two alligators (more pictures - more tips). Beer, water, cola were provided. A short drive later we were back to Limon where were picked up some Costa Rican coffee beans and then back to the ship. All in all, a five hour tour for $50 left some lasting memories. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend Oscar & Allan.
Day 8 - At Sea: Friday would be a day to relax at sea. The Coral has a Library where I had taken out a few books on Day 2. This would be a full reading day on deck and would be formal night #2. For repeat Princess Cruisers it was also the night Captain Roger Bilton hosted the Captain's Circle. After getting our formal pictures taken we went to the 7:15 pm reception before Dinner. There were 1,081 cruisers in the Captain's Circle on this cruise. Lobster tails and Beef Wellington were on the menu. Day 9 - Ocho Rios, Jamaica: Saturday 's visit was to Ocho Rios, just 90 miles south of Cuba. Only 16,000 people live here of the Island's 2.8 million population. A very scenic, clean and touristy town, the Coral was docked in what seemed like the center of town. Not having been to Jamaica, we wanted to see both the town and some of the Island. We found Terance, a Jutta tour guide just outside the gate and off we went for three hours. We chose not to go to Dunn's River Falls but rather did a drive through Fern Gully to Cayoga Gardens, to a Pottery Factory , met some local characters along the way before being dropped off at the Jamaican Grand. $25 each,a tip and a few photo tips along with a $5 admission to the gardens wasn't bad for the morning. After spending an hour at the Grand we walked back to the Coral. Had a quick lunch at KFC and did some shopping at many of the shops that line the main street. Managed to get a good deal on Blue Mountain Coffee and some Jamaican liqueurs to bring home.
Day 10 - At Sea: Sunday would be the last cruise day. The sun was in the sky and a light sea breeze was blowing. The day was spent on deck, lunch with our cruise critic group, an afternoon of packing and a New Orleans culinary experience at The Bayou that evening. The fare was Bayou themed including an appetizer that featured alligator ribs (looked like chicken with a pork, beef texture). We both had the beef tenderloin that I would describe as one of the best, if not the best, steak I've ever eaten. For $15 pp, it was a dining experience to remember and a delightful way to end the cruise.
Other notes:
We went to seven or eight shows in the Princess Theatre and Universal Lounge. Kevin Hughes (comedian) gave a good show. The Motor City and Tribute musicals were enjoyable.
The disembarkation went much smoothly than on any other cruise. Thanks for serving breakfast was in the Dining Room. We were off the Coral by 8:30 am and at our Hotel 15 minutes later for a final day in Fort Lauderdale that included a canal tour on the Jungle Queen..
Of the three Princess Cruises we've taken, I would rate this behind the Crown (Caribbean) and Dawn (Mexican Riviera). The dining room food was not as well prepared or presented, service not quite as friendly and the entertainment was mediocre. Perhaps the Norovirus had everyone on edge. We would have liked longer port times. We find a 10 day cruise to be a good length. Cruises are great vacation travel value. Looking forward to a Mediterranean Cruise sometime soon.
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