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Sail Date: February 2018
We selected this cruise because of the itinery and price. We wanted to try an asian cruise this time, and not that many options are available departing from Singapore. Royal Caribbean was much more expensive and had a less attractive ... Read More
We selected this cruise because of the itinery and price. We wanted to try an asian cruise this time, and not that many options are available departing from Singapore. Royal Caribbean was much more expensive and had a less attractive itinery. Costa Victoria is old. Built in 1996, and is by current standards a small ship. This would however not have to be only a disadvantage. A small ship can have its advantages. Unfortunatelly that was not the case with Costa Victoria. The decor of the ship is just uggly and would really need an upgrade. There's plenty of space on deck, but not enough deck chairs forcing people to simply place the towels on the fake "grass" floor, and the "solarium" in the forward of the ship needs at least a jacuzzi or something to relieve the main pool area. We we're upgraded from an inside to an outside cabin which was a very nice surprise! The outside cabins which comes with only a porthole window. The cabin is very small and the orange colors are not pleasant.No seating are is available so oyu have to sit in the bed to view TV. The bathroom is fine though. The dining options available are the absolute basics. It's either the buffet, or the main dining rooms. The buffet has 4 parallel lines, but only one is serving the grilled meat/fish why all people needs to queue in this line. For lunch the poolside of the buffet is serving burgers. unfortunatelly not tasty at all :(. No pizza or ice cream was available at all which suprised me on an italian ship. The MDR has two seatings, no flexible time dining. The gala dinner was rather good, but most other days the food was below standards. We shared dinner table with people from Scottland, Italy, Russia, Ukrain and Slovakia (we're from Sweden). Exiting, but not practial since not all could speak the same language. There was about 25 other Swedes onboard the ship and some british/americans which would have been much better for us to dine with for language reasons. The "theater" is more like a normal show room in 2 levels. 2 of the shows, one italian tenor and one acrobatic show was good, the other dance shows was boring. When we embarked costa took our passports and said they we're going to keep it for the entire cruise. I tried to understand why, but no one could answer me. They just said "this is how Costa always do", however, I have been with Costa 2 times before and they have not taken my passport. The day before disembarkation we had to queue to get them back. I then noticde the passports had been stamped by Thai and Cambodian customs. So maybe this was the reason for collecting them, but it would have felt better if this information was provided to us prior to embarkation. Btw, we was informormed just days before the cruise that a mandatory fee of $40 per person was going to be applied for Cambodian Visa (also applicable if not disembarking the ship). This shold have been made clear when booking the cruise, or better, including in the cruise price. Cruising is always a pleasurable way to travel, and even with the bare minimum of the cruise experience the Costa Victoria provides I find it worth the money paid. But for sure there shold be a significant difference in price, or much better itinery if I would choce costa again for my future cruises. Read Less
Sail Date: January 2018
This was our first cruise on Costa, but our 16th overall. Here are our honest thoughts on the various aspects. The cruise was 7 nights and embarked at Dubai. Flight ------ We booked the flight independently of the cruise. It was ... Read More
This was our first cruise on Costa, but our 16th overall. Here are our honest thoughts on the various aspects. The cruise was 7 nights and embarked at Dubai. Flight ------ We booked the flight independently of the cruise. It was an Emirates flight from LHR to Dubai. It was an overnight flight that landed in Dubai at 6am. In hindsite, this was the wrong choice as embarkation didn't start until 8pm and it turned out to be a long day. Still the flight itself was very good and we were impressed with Emirates. Embarkation ----------- This is where it all went a bit wrong. Our embarkation ticket stated 8pm as the boarding time which seemed a tad on the late side compared to a normal cruise. A quick google suggested that if you turn up at around 3pm, they would let you on. However imagine the dismay when we (and many other people) turned up in the afternoon to be told that 8pm was the hard and fast time and so we had to wait for 5 hours in the cruise terminal. Turns out this was because Friday (the day we embarked) is a holiday in the UAE and therefore the immigration control officials were only available from 8pm, hence the time. Can't really blame Costa for this I guess, but it's something to note. Cabin ----- We had cabin 7290 which was classed as a suite 'S' Cabin. It was a very nice size and was quite a bit bigger than a standard balcony cabin, so we were very pleased. Dining ------ Because we were in a suite, we were allowed to eat in the club restaurant (Club Medusa) free of charge for Breakfast, Lunch and Dinner. We didn't eat in the MDR, so can offer no opinion. We also tried the buffet for lunch a couple of times, but found the choice very limited. Club Medusa was very nice and the choice varied daily. The wine choice was also very good and you could try the wine to see if you liked it first. They try to sit you in the same area each day so you have the same waiters which helps build the relationship. It was also fairly quiet and you don't need to book ahead as suite guests. This was certainly one of the suite 'extras' that helped make the cruise that bit more special. Entertainment ------------- This is one area where both Italian cruise lines (MSC & Costa) fall short compared to American and British lines. The daily activities are very limited and evening shows are centred around song and dance and acrobat routines. I guess it's the language issues that are the cause. The good things of note were the live bands and the animation team. Dress Code ---------- We had lots of varied dress codes on our cruise. We had informal, Gala, Italian, Arabian and white nights, although many people adopted informal for the whole cruise. It was all good fun. The only gripe was that nowhere on the pre-cruise documents stated what was on offer, so you couldn't preplan what to pack. Ports ----- A cruise around the UAE all pretty much stop at the same ports. The main ones on our cruise were Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Muscat and Sir Bani Yas Island. Ship ---- Having just been on the MSC Preziosa, the Costa Mediterranea looked and felt like an older ship in comparison. We experienced some very rough vibrations in our cabin whenever the stern thrusters were used and there was a constant vibration from the engines all over the ship when at sea. Nothing to bad to spoil the holiday, but not something I ever remember experiencing on any other ship. Suite Extras ------------ As we were in a suite cabin, we were entitled to a number of 'extras'. They were :- - Breakfast/Lunch/Dinner in the Club restaurant (see above) - Complimentary Intenditore drinks package. This is the top level one and pretty much every drink is included (apart from super expensive). You also get drinks loaded in your minibar. - Exclusive activities. We are invited to a couple of cocktail parties with the captain, but didn't attend due to the timings. - Complementary room service etc. We had breakfast in our room a couple of times, but other than that, didn't really test the room service. Disembarkation -------------- This was very smooth. We were free to leave the ship at any time up to 1pm and collect our luggage from the terminal. Perhaps this is something unique to the UAE cruises. Port to Airport --------------- Grabbed one of the many taxis from the terminal. Tooks roughly 20 minutes and cost 55 Dirhams (£11). Overall ------- No one can argue that Costa are not good value for money (much like MSC) but of course that means that certain aspects of the cruise are 'budget restricted' like the food and entertainment. It is also very Italian orientated (not unsurprisingly). However as long as you accept these limitations, then you can certainly enjoy yourselves. Read Less
Sail Date: January 2018
We chose this cruise for price & timing was good to get away on short notice. It offered 10 nights on an itinerary we love and have been to before. Belize & Roatan, Mexico and more! We have taken several cruises over the years ... Read More
We chose this cruise for price & timing was good to get away on short notice. It offered 10 nights on an itinerary we love and have been to before. Belize & Roatan, Mexico and more! We have taken several cruises over the years and even worked on Carnival and Princess ships as entertainers for almost 9 years. We knew when booking this cruise it was not going to be high end, but, it was very nice. The staff were fantastic including all restaurant and cabin steward. The musicians were fantastic, especially the Sherade Band, playing popular music incl. rock, country rock. I read the bad reviews before we booked it, but I don't listen to negative people that want to pay cheap prices and expect royalty when they get there. Our cruise was around $1700 for both of us, tax in (Canadian)! You couldn't take a trip 5 hours away in a hotel for 10 nights for this price. Lots of food choices in the buffet and we did eat in the dining room 8 out of 10 nights. The vibe of the crew and staff was friendly, helpful and really seemed to care about us and our needs. The ship was primarily Italian speaking people as it is an Italian based ship. Read Less
3 Helpful Votes
Sail Date: December 2017
Greatly recommend to those who are keen to go for a cruise managed by a poor management who always put on an "unhappy" face on all their cruise with no proper instructions given and when questions were raised by their guest to ... Read More
Greatly recommend to those who are keen to go for a cruise managed by a poor management who always put on an "unhappy" face on all their cruise with no proper instructions given and when questions were raised by their guest to their crew, the standard reply was "I don't know, please check with another crew.". Also if you do not wish that the crew to enter your cabins, do remember to put the "Do Not Disturb" sign at your door as our room was entered multiple times for no particular reasons even though we didn't call for housekeeping and we realised that our laptop had been touched ( as we left room for a short time to attend their concert, we left our laptop open and when we were back, it was closed and the whole room was pitch dark - even side table lights were offed. ) When asked to the information counter, they said we didn't put "DTD" thus the crews can enter and leave anytime they like. Toilets were filled with moulds at bathing area, beds were stained with black stains even after a housekeeping session done.. Smoke can be smelt along the corridor of the cabins, insufficient kettles available as well. The adapter given by the crew had sparks coming out from it when it was plucked it and when asked for an exchange, the crew said that they ran out of it. Long queues during meal times and there was no one controlling the crowd nor guiding the passengers. Ice cream stall only open for 1 meal throughout the 5 days of cruise. Speciality restaurant does not offer all indicated food items and we were not told before we sat down for our meal. Waste of money. There is 3 eating area for the passengers, however, only 2 is available as 1 is converted to "FOR SUITE" passengers only. We purchased the non-alcoholic beverage package but the crew would keep on telling us that the non-alcoholic drinks are not included and we had to pay extra (don't buy package as they don't honour it). No proper lightings near the swimming pool where some kids are found running in dark as well which is very dangerous. Entertainment were the same for the 5 days. Poor management on disembarkation and embarkation as well as no proper direction nor instructions given, announcement system is also not clear. Overall, its a waste of money and time, both my partner and I are very displeased with the service provided, management control, experience, condition of the cabin and the embarkation and disembarkation process. This is not our first time cruising on a cruise liner but it will be the first time and LAST TIME cruising with COSTA VICTORIA. Read Less
Sail Date: December 2017
We have travelled on Costa Majica in the Mediterranean before and we had a fantastic trip. The food was excellent and the shows were magnificent. So with this in mind we thought why not book our Caribbean cruise with them as well on the ... Read More
We have travelled on Costa Majica in the Mediterranean before and we had a fantastic trip. The food was excellent and the shows were magnificent. So with this in mind we thought why not book our Caribbean cruise with them as well on the Costa Delioza. Because it was it was the start to our month long trip to America for our Honeymoon and wedding in Vegas we decided to go all out and book a suite. (We are South African so the exchange rate for us is R14 for $1). So you can imaging this is a lifetime of saving for a trip of a lifetime. Our Cruise departed from Fort Lauderdale on 20 December 2017. First sign was when our departure was delayed till something like 2am in the morning because some passengers flight had been delayed. There went the excitement of the traditional harbour departure. We couldn't stay awake till that time. Boarding was simple and easy. On boarding we were greeted by a English hostess (we never saw her again on the boat for the full 7 days). That 1st night we went to dinning room reserved for the suites. The Maitre'D took the room card from my husband and looked at me and said and where do you come from as if to say I am not good enough for his restaurant. It was a great start to our dinning experience for the next 7 days. He then told us we would have to come back at 9pm because they were going to be doing the emergency drill. (We have cruised a bit and normally they announce a time for the drill so that you can plan your time around it.) Well we then went and waited in our room for the signal. We did the obligatorily drill and went back to the dinning room. By this stage I had sort of lost my appetite. Well I was expecting much better quality food but again it was the first night and we were still in Port. We woke up to an arrival in Nassau. We didn't book any tours as we prefer to do our own thing when getting off the boat and also we could not afford the prices of the tours. We spent the day with some other passengers we met disembarking. Having been there 17 years before we were shocked at the state of Nassau and how run down it was. It was like going to any market/shopping mall anywhere in the world. We left Nassau and some stupid passenger with high blood pressure decided to go diving (which is not recommended). We heard he died and that is why we had to go back to Nassau and not move on to the Grand Turks. These ships are supposed to have hospitals and morgues on board (my son works on a ship). Anyway this delay meant that we only had a half a day in the Grand Turks which we were so looking forward to. Before leaving (in fact months before) I booked online for the Samsara Restaurant. So off we went with our confirmation. We arrive there and got a very rude well we don't have a booking for you. So I showed her the paper and her reply was well that service online doesn't work you need to book on the ship. After much discussison they seated us at a table right next to the waiters entrance to kitchen. There went our romantic dinner. The food was also very mediocre and we could well have just eaten in our own dinning room. We had another medical emergency not far out of the Grand Turks and the boat once again had to do a u-turn. This luckily didn't effect our other stops. Well back to the over all service. The waiters had a shocking attitude and banged plates down in front of you. The food at the buffet was disgusting (slop). If you wanted a burger you had to pay extra, there was NO ice cream on the boat and you had to pay for pizza. These things have always been included previously. We could not find a bar man, waiter or Matire'D who could give advise on wines. The selection was also very poor. Well now onto the entertainment. It was SHOCKING except maybe if you where Italian. I understand it is an Italian liner but you are cruising in an English speaking part of the world. Adapt. Even on our Mediterean cruise the entertainment was our joy every night. The shows were what we looked forward to every night. There was one morning when our safe would not open and I phoned the customer services desk to ask them to come and open it. We needed our passports and wallets to get off the boat at Ambers Cove. I even phoned our butler. We sat in our room for 4 hours waiting. Only when I went down to the desk and made a scene about the overall service and the fact that some dead guy had ruined our trip to the Grand Turks was I quickly ushered to our room where they opened the safe. Now after such a complaint I would have expected them to send the English Speaking Hostess to us to understand our concerns but no she was no where to be found. That evening at dinner we did get an apology from the Maitre'D and from then on we were treated like any other diner in the restaurant. I am not sure if we looked too poor to be in the suite dinning room or maybe too young? Well we obviously where not good enough until I complained. So overall the staff looked miserable and as if they were just dragging themselves through the day. A couple of the staff told us that they had just had their salaries dropped (can you imagine just before Christmas) and their bonus was a $10 calling card so they could call home for Christmas. Apparently some of the them where at threat of loosing their positions. They are taking the butler service away from the Suites. So I assume they will then lower their fees. Costa will not be seeing us again! Thanks for ruining a trip of a lifetime you sure as hell made it an overall disaster. Read Less
Sail Date: October 2017
We choose for this cruise , because ; -The itineraries -The price of the cruise -All Inclusive (Diner and lots of beverages as wine, cognac,whiskey,beer, liquer,cocktails... -The total amount of days (just one week, not ... Read More
We choose for this cruise , because ; -The itineraries -The price of the cruise -All Inclusive (Diner and lots of beverages as wine, cognac,whiskey,beer, liquer,cocktails... -The total amount of days (just one week, not more) -The size of cabin and balcony -Entertainment We enjoyed the services of the crew, we liked the lay-out of the ship, - yes on this ship one can enjoy also more quiet areas. Deck four we loved quite well , if you like to walk quite a bit, this deck was well made for this This was not our first cruise and we enjoyed also other companies as; - Royal Crarribean (2x) - Norwegian Cruiseline - Celebrity (2x) - Holland America Line And yes ,they were all good ,so also Costa Luminosa was. And no; this ship was not too noisy One demand from us to Costa; Please make Venice or for exemple Triesta a port where you have more control on (communication with port authorities) Read Less
6 Helpful Votes
Sail Date: September 2017
First of all be aware: when they want you to buy the cruise the small words hidings behind the lines. did you know any person need to pay 10 euros plus to the privce? 70 euros more! i didn't see it because it is written in small ... Read More
First of all be aware: when they want you to buy the cruise the small words hidings behind the lines. did you know any person need to pay 10 euros plus to the privce? 70 euros more! i didn't see it because it is written in small latters so you won't know untiil the demand it on board. nobody will tell you, just because you signd already and now you will need to pay. After i already gave tips to any batrhender!! the price is include 15% more for service aotumaticolly!! even if you take something from the minibar they will take 15% service charge!! for what?!? so 15% more of service, plus 10 euros per day to person, in my case 2 people, (170-190 euros more just for service!!!). i even took in 5 euros package for social networks internet one day they took me 3 euros more for signing and i did it alone! in ther internet! no service! didn't i paid enough on the cruise already?? the other thing all day long same food in breakfast and dinner. If you are not Italian don't go! because almost al the activities and shows in italian!! if i would know everything of it in the beggining i will not even come to the cruise! Read Less
Sail Date: September 2017
Sail Date: 08 September 2017 Destination: Europe - Western Mediterranean Embarkation: Kiel Just returned from a cruise, the Costa Pacifica.We chose this cruise for the itinerary and we were not disappointed. We enjoyed every port ... Read More
Sail Date: 08 September 2017 Destination: Europe - Western Mediterranean Embarkation: Kiel Just returned from a cruise, the Costa Pacifica.We chose this cruise for the itinerary and we were not disappointed. We enjoyed every port of call, stunning scenery combined with history and beautiful buildings. The Costa Pacifica is a lovely ship with lots to offer My husband and I are cruising enthusiasts. this was my first cruise. Being both retired we have chosen cruises to have the opportunity to visit different country but most of all to discover all the entertainment on board and to meet such wonderful and charming people on board. My husband is already a Costa Club member , the last time it was on Costa Victoria. The staff was as usual fantastic and really did all what they could to keep up the hospitality of Costa. It was an excellent and very amusing experience. We dined in the New York restaurant and the food was excellent as was the waiter service. We had a fantastic wine waiter called Boaquina Santos II who was excellent at his job. The food was really good and the service was amazing. The show in the evening was good. We have been so lucky to meet people such as Beautiful Cynthia Bulka, very good and warm bar maid services with the smiling and charming Lalremruati (Remy) (Cocktail Waitress), the very beautiful friendly blonde from Portugal, Zaenal Mustopa F& B server. These persons have really touched our heart with their kindness, great devotion and most of all with the communicating friendly smile, a great thanks to them who have make our day and night a real dream. I wish them all the best in their professional and personal life. Do not change anything, be always the same .You are wonderful persons. We watched all the dance shows in the theatre and the lounge bar, the Afro Arimba dance productions were brilliant. A big thank and applause to the beautiful fantastic singer Julia & the great and talented Saxophonist Roberts for their romantic song. The everyday shows were excellent with different teams and the unforgettable show delivered by the various people (non entertainment team) on the day before our departure was just fabulous, talented and surprising Just can't imagine such good and hidden talents behind the scene. Hospitality Service well managed and very helpful with different foreign languages - Mainly the smiling Rodrigo and the charming Laura Sini. A big kiss from Costa Pacifica Boutique to the beautiful and smiling waiter 407 Michele Pereire, excuse us for not writing well the name. We will not forget our two Francophone Hospitality Service Senior Specialists namely the charming and smiling Lisa Coppola and Julia Fouquet with their unconditional devotion. They were more than helpful A big thank to the very talented photographer Alexandre Bega and his team. We did various good excursions - value for money - A big thanks for the hospitality and animation team, the fantastic and talented Josuah. Wish him Good luck VIGO City Tour Visited a city in Spain and then Portugal. Was an interesting tour. CHERBOURG The trip to Normandy was our favorite excursion of the cruise. It was very moving, our guide well informed, and the museum at the graveyard very well done. Overall it was a fantastic cruise with great values. Read Less
13 Helpful Votes
Sail Date: August 2017
I'll begin saying that every single cruise I have made so far has been a great experience, and this one is no exception. But as this is a review, I should also point out that compared to other cruise lines and ships, this one was somewhat ... Read More
I'll begin saying that every single cruise I have made so far has been a great experience, and this one is no exception. But as this is a review, I should also point out that compared to other cruise lines and ships, this one was somewhat disappointing. The good This baltic itinerary is wonderful! Stockholm, Helsinki, St Petersbourgh and Tallinn are all wonderful places to see. There was always enough time to visit (2 days for st Petersbourgh and Stockholm) and only one day at sea, which is perfect. Our waiter at the restaurant was great: incredibly professional and efficient, it made our dinners a great experience. We had a guaranteed balcony cabin, and were upgraded to a "Balcony Premium". Really nice cabin, enjoyed great views. Took the airplane with them, and except for a delay on the way back, everything was organized perfectly. The bad The buffet was a nightmare: it felt like a battle every time you got into there. Poorly managed, very low quality, no rules enforced (not even basic hygene), lines everywhere. Also, no drinks at all except for breakfast and tea (16.30 / 17.30). Only water throughout the day: no coffee, no tea, nothing. Asked for hot water, told to get to the bar and pay for a tea. Closed for most of the day. Waiters looked like they didn't want to be there, and some of them were downright rude. It's a pity because most of the crew is hard working and really nice. I think management is to blame for that. I've travelled with NCL, Royal Caribbean, Carnival, MSC, and this was by far the worst buffet I've ever seen. One of the things I love about cruises is the evening shows at the theater. Well, the shows there were so boring! This is a pity because dancers were pretty good, but overall it seemed there was no direction. A couple of times I went out before the end of the show. I didn't like the ship. Everything seemed a bit "cheap". Plastic everywhere, fake flowers, fake statues, fake columns, fake everything. Also, rather dark and not the cleanest I've seen. The gym opened relatively late (7 am), and was not kept clean at all. Rules were not enforced (like everywhere else) so that some people were walking on the tapis roulant for hours, with people behind them waiting or having to argue. Lines there as well. On the other hand I should mention the the instructor was very good. Overall I wouldn't consider Costa for my next cruises and would't recommend them, unless for a VERY good deal and a great itinerary. Not because it's a bad experience by itself (it isn't), but because any other mainstream cruise line I've travelled with is simply better for me. Read Less
11 Helpful Votes
Sail Date: August 2017
We chose this cruise because we flew into London for 2 day -took Eurostar to Paris for 2 days -then train to Marseilles. We Ubered from St.Charles train station for 21euros, great uber driver, we embaraked about 2 pm with a very short ... Read More
We chose this cruise because we flew into London for 2 day -took Eurostar to Paris for 2 days -then train to Marseilles. We Ubered from St.Charles train station for 21euros, great uber driver, we embaraked about 2 pm with a very short line.This is a first time for us so even as we didnt know what steps to take we made it without a problem. We went straight to the cabin and greeted by our new best buddy Rommel. He was great, attentive, and cleaned our room like twice a day. Our beds were put together to make the large bed which i kept falling in the middle all night, but oh well. We had the inside room, no window It was pretty large and the bathroom was large too. We could put our luggage under the bed and it had a small fridge. had all-in-one shampoo/soap in the shower. Overall i was impressed with the size of the room. We had breakfast brought to the room for 10 extra euros a day. All carbs, no meat, so i went out to the buffet to add cold cuts. Breakfast buffet does not have hot food that i could remember,only cold cuts, bread,cereal, danishes,donuts. negative on eggs or bacon. Buffet food was good, there were certain days that the buffet had my favorites like Prawn, Paella etc. I think that was when we docked in Spain. I preferred the dining food over the buffet. Our seated dining was a table for 2 with the view of the ocean in the back, they said that was the best seat in the house. It was very romantic. Our waiter Nyoman was training and he was shy at first, but day 2 and 3 etc, he loosened up and felt comfortable with us too. I danced with the waiters on Italy night and it was great fun. Gelato and crepe bar was cute and colorful but extra cost. We got the middle drink package 26 euros a day, gave me all the sodas i wanted and a few cocktails(i dont drink much), but my husband was constantly out of package for the drinks he preferred. So he settled for Gin and tonic, so maybe the third tier was better but didnt match me, the non-drinker, in cost. Coffee was excellent Illy cappucinos all day long. The announcements are in italian with brief English translations so might as well be all italian coz i didnt undertand a thing, but thats ok coz the itineray plan was in english. The Shows were one main show an evening, and band nights in different bars on the ship. I didnt care for the shows, seemed mediocre but the bands were fun, also in italian or english songs with accents The singing contest was fun, also an italian host. No translation except for the American songs they sang. There were always dancing lessons all over the ship and plenty of people joining in. the day activities were few so its best to get off the ship and check out barcelona, palma de mallorca, civitavecchia, savona , and spend the day or half a day outside. It was very very hot outside this time of year. Pools are very small, So i never used my bathingsuit because it was too tight and crowded. Photo guys were out to sell. They didnt have choices in the packages basically it was 14,20,30 euros for individuals or 400euros for all. Couldnt afford to buy them all. We took a drop off costa sanctioned bus to Rome and we walked it ourselves. Then we ubered to the Vatican. It was cheaper and at our own pace. We felt we did the right thing for us. All went smooth and got back to the ship right on time. Embarking was chaotic so we sardined our way back in. Disembarking was easy and we found our way back to the train by taxi because uber couldnt get in 28 euros. For the inexperienced cruisers like us, we were very satisfied, but all the experienced ones may find the need for more activities on the ship. My husband says he loves cruising now, so thats all of it in a nutshell. Read Less
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