8 Carnival Pride Cruise Reviews for Senior Cruises to Bermuda

My first attempt at a cruise review after 4 cruises. We were to leave Baltimore on September 9, 2018 for Bermuda. Because of Hurricane Florence we were rerouted to the Bahamas. Grand Turk, Half Moon Cay and Freeport. We cruised to ... Read More
My first attempt at a cruise review after 4 cruises. We were to leave Baltimore on September 9, 2018 for Bermuda. Because of Hurricane Florence we were rerouted to the Bahamas. Grand Turk, Half Moon Cay and Freeport. We cruised to those islands in 2011. I will give you some updates on changes I noticed on this cruise since our last cruise in 2016.. MY OBSERVATIONS: PARKING LOT: There used to be 2 lanes, one for cash and one for credit. The cash line was always the shortest. Now both lanes are open for either cash or credit. EMBARKATION: Seeming long lines at the 1:00 - 1:30 check in but they moved really fast. Carry on bags went through the xray conveyor belt but this time they were not opened and inspected like they did in 2016. We were aboard in about 15-20 minutes. Rooms were ready at 2:00. SHOWER: Water pressure in the shower was excellent. Shower curtain was extra long and didn’t wrap around you while you were taking a shower. I do wish they would add a small grab bar in the shower while the Pride is in drydock. ROOM SERVICE: Room steward brings a card and you check off AM, PM or BOTH. We were not pressured one way or another. We chose AM and wrote in ice. Our room steward was I Ketut and he was great! ROOMS: Our 4K room had a flat screen TV. Previous years you could find the day’s menu and check your sign-and-sail balance on the TV. Now you have to download the Carnival Hub to see those things. We didn’t take a device to use and locked our phones in the safe so this was no help to us. We would check our balance and add money if needed at one of the Kiosk’s at either end of the Casino. Never had to stand in line at Guest Services. I listed the TV Channels you get on the room TVs at the end of this review. BRUNCH: OJ was the only juice offered but you could ask for others. The bread basket came around and you could pick one piece. Menu was great! DINNER: We had YTD on the 3rd floor dining room. Bread basket was placed on the table. Water was really good on this cruise. Some choices came in little bit larger portions (caesar salad especially). Our waiters were awesome! Arta, Arya and Libin. At around 5:30 the line would start forming for the YTD. Crew members from the Dining Room were nice enough to bring those disabled guests right in to a table so they didn’t have to stand in line. I thought that was very nice. In past years they had a menu board outside the Dining Room with that night’s dinner menu. This cruise there was none. LIDO: Lots of good choices for lunch. Breakfast was always the same. I am not a fan. Best drink we found from Lido was to put about ½ inch of lemonade in the cup, add ice and then fill with water. Excellent lemon-water! Lido now has platters alongside the plates. Perfect to use as a tray if you need one, especially for bringing coffee and pastries back to the room. GUY’S BURGERS: Guys is a matter of opinion. Some love it and some do not. My husband loved it but I don’t usually eat burgers. The fries looked greasy and not crispy. However, I love fried onion sandwiches! I got a burger roll from Guys and filled it with the (yes, very greasy) fried onions from their fixins bar. Delish! PIZZA: We both preferred the pizza of 2 years ago made on a flat bread/foca bread type crust. This time it was made on traditional round pizza crust and it was served as ½ pizza when you ordered. (Unless you wanted a whole one. Approximate size was a medium). SHOWS: We didn’t go to any of the musical shows except KARAOKE which was fun. Hosted by Assistant Cruise Director Bendy Blake who was awesome! We did attend the CARIBBEAN SHOPPING SHOW. As reported by others, it was a waste of time, just telling you where to shop on the islands. (Stores associated with Carnival). Love and Marriage Show was hosted by Dr. E and of course it was very funny. He asked around 10 questions. COMEDIANS: Didn’t attend but heard they were very funny but only about 20 minutes sessions. Last couple of nights they had no comedians because they were to be picked up in Freeport on Friday but we skipped that port and came straight home Thursday after Half Moon Cay. CASINO: We spent a little time in the Casino on the first night. The smoke was unbearable. When we got back to our room, our clothes smelled like cigarette smoke! I wish they would make the table game side of the Casino the smoking section and the Slot Machines on the right as non smoking. That might help a little. DH was able to pick up a stack of $100 from the claw machine. We saw a couple other people grab one as well. CREW: As always, you won’t find a nicer, friendlier crew anywhere. When ship is docked in a port, the crew members are busy cleaning. CRUISE DIRECTOR: Reverend Dr. E (Eversen) was so funny and personable! Best cruise director we have ever sailed with! PORTS: GRAND TURK: We were last in Grand Turk in 2011 so it has been awhile. Back then Carnival advised to stay in the Carnival port area and not wander off beyond there. This time, locals were everywhere in the port. They offered golf cart rentals, jeep rentals, tours, chairs and umbrellas closest to the beach. It was really a big difference and to me it just seemed overcrowded with so much going on. Port shops were great. Half Moon Cay: Awesome as always. Captain announced on Thursday evening when we left Half Moon Cay that we would not be docking at Freeport on Friday due to Hurricane Florence. We would leave right then and go farther out to sea and around the Hurricane on our way back to Baltimore. Friday was a rough sea day as we did hit some rough seas. This also cancelled the Comedians for Friday and Saturday as we were unable to pick them up in Freeport. DEBARKATION: We did self-assist for the first time and loved it! If you have any questions, I would be happy to answer. TV CHANNEL SHOWING 11 FUN FINDS 13 CRUISE LIFE 14 CHANNEL GUIDE 15 SAFETY INFORMATION 16 FUN ABOARD 17 CARNIVAL ADVENTURES 18 MAP CHANNEL 19 FORWARD CAMERA VIEW 20 LIDO CAMERA VIEW 21 AUDIBLE FUNTIMES 22 CNN 23 CNN INTERNATIONAL 24 CNN SPANISH 25 HLN 26 BOOMERANG 27 CARTOON NETWORK 28 TNT 29 TBS / WATCHED IN ENGLISH/COMMERCIALS IN SPANISH 30 TCM 31 TRUTV / SPANISH IN PM & ENGLISH IN AM 32 FREE MOVIE CHANNEL / MOVIE GUIDE BETWEEN MOVIES 33 FUN FOR ALL 34 OCEAN VIEW 35 GOOD TO KNOW 36 MUSIC CHANNEL Read Less
Sail Date September 2018
One of the reasons I booked a cruise from Baltimore was to "sail" down the Chesapeake Bay but since this cruise was delayed by 7 hours, it was dark when that part of the cruise finally happened. I leave on the West Coast now ... Read More
One of the reasons I booked a cruise from Baltimore was to "sail" down the Chesapeake Bay but since this cruise was delayed by 7 hours, it was dark when that part of the cruise finally happened. I leave on the West Coast now but am from the DC area and missing that Bay experience was really disappointing. The reason for the delay was a "medical deviation" so I cannot fault Carnival since the safety of guests must come first, even if it resulted in a reduced experience for my experience. That aside, as usual, the crew members of Carnival did an amazing job and it was a nice trip. The TV in my cabin flickered while watching the channel that shows the location of the ship and all the info, and that was a bummer. Since Carnival does not ask for feedback after a cruise, I have not reported that problem. Everything else on the Pride was fine and I loved Bermuda and having a cruise to be docked in a great location at Dockyard and being able to come and go 24 hours for three days. Rented scooter and loved being able to park it right outside the ship at night to jump on it the next day. I would do this one again but hopefully without a disappointing delay. Read Less
Sail Date July 2017
We had a great time on our 25th anniversary cruise. We had a balcony stateroom on the 4th deck aft starboard side - very convenient for getting to the 2nd deck where all of the action was. This cruise's schedule was disrupted by ... Read More
We had a great time on our 25th anniversary cruise. We had a balcony stateroom on the 4th deck aft starboard side - very convenient for getting to the 2nd deck where all of the action was. This cruise's schedule was disrupted by Tropical Storm Karl - but Carnival did a good job of keeping us up to date on the changes. Things we really enjoyed: Alchemy Bar - we first saw this on our last cruise and enjoyed it there - and also loved it on the Pride. Very creative martinis and great bartenders. It was popular almost every time we passed it - partly because it is right next to the dining room entrance so people go for a before dinner drink. Chef's Table - this is the first time we have done this and we really enjoyed it. Wonderful food and a great atmosphere with only 12 people. Wine and champagne are included with the dinner. It is pricey at $75 per person but we thought it was worth it. Most of the others that were doing it had done it several times before. Steakhouse - We did this the first night and really enjoyed it as usual. So much food but it is wonderful. If you go the first night of the cruise, it is a free bottle of cheap wine or half price of any wine they have. Trivia Games - we love these, lots of fun as always. Bermuda was nice - though the weather was rainy. We did an all day tour with a non-Carnival supplier - it was very nice and took us all over the island. It was called Hidden Gems of Bermuda. The area around the King's Wharf had quite a bit of shopping as well as a small beach - so if you didn't want to go far that was nice. Overall we had a great time and would highly recommend this cruise. Read Less
Sail Date September 2016
Due to another Carnival ship being in the harbor because of weather, our time in port was cut very short. We were allowed to disembark at 4 I wasn't off the ship til 4:15 and everything closed at 5. We never did get to the pink beach ... Read More
Due to another Carnival ship being in the harbor because of weather, our time in port was cut very short. We were allowed to disembark at 4 I wasn't off the ship til 4:15 and everything closed at 5. We never did get to the pink beach but saw a lovely beach right in town. I am not sure I'd go in Oct again. Wind was high at I don't balance well when seas are rough. None of this is Carnivals fault, and mother nature does what she does. The bed room was clean and comfortable the food as always was excellent . Guys burgers is a hit. Shows were good. They said if you get a partially obstructed view it only means you can't look straight down. Well there is more than that. It eats up a good portion of your balcony space so be warned. The only other thing I noticed was bar tenders would often walk right past and not offer a drink unless you stopped them. This didn't happen in the casino or the smoking deck but I was at the bar in the lobby and the red frog and never got asked if I wanted a drink. Finally ( and it's kind of silly) But I was kind of looking forward to the sampling bar and it was never opened. All in all was a very nice cruise and I think if the weather had cooperated I would have had a better time. BTW Embarkation and disembarkation from port of Baltimore , Piece of cake! Read Less
Sail Date October 2015
I Just finished my cruise on the Carnival Pride, and outside of Mikita and her girls at David's Steak house, young girl from India on the Lido Deck and the pizza guy on the Lido deck this was the worst Carnival cruise I have ever ... Read More
I Just finished my cruise on the Carnival Pride, and outside of Mikita and her girls at David's Steak house, young girl from India on the Lido Deck and the pizza guy on the Lido deck this was the worst Carnival cruise I have ever been on. We were not notified until after 8PM, Saturday night that our cruise would not begin on 11/6, but would sail on Monday 11/7 at 1PM with over $100,000.00 worth of damages due to a storm that delay the Carnival Pride getting into Baltimore on 11/6.Crew members told me that passengers in the upper floors were sleeping in the hall ways and in the atrium which was flooded. Crew members told me that they were afraid during that storm. The Captain, knowing the Tropical Storm Shawn was in the Atlantic, heading towards Bermuda, took us into the storm while in my, and other guest opinions should have changed our destinations to New England. 48 hours later we arrived in Bermuda on Wednesday at 1PM and it took us until about 2:30PM to dock, clear customs and get to our first excursion. Our excursion lasted about 1 hr, 20 mins,, and since the shops close at 5PM, we stayed in the King's Wharf area and shopped till the shops closed and then went to dinner. On Sunday e were told we had to be back on board by 12:30PM, since the ship was leaving early, with the shops not opening till 10PM we figured with the 20 minute ferry ride, each way, to Hamilton, or the 45 minute travel time to, each way St. George's, it was not worth the risk of missing the 12:30/1PM sailing. we arrived off the Va Coast around 12:45Pm Friday afternoon and sailed up and down from Nagg's Head to the entrance of the Chesapeake Bay the rest of Friday and all day Saturday just punching holes in the water. 48 hours from Baltimore to Bermuda and only 22 hours from Bermuda to the entrance of the Chesapeake Bay. Two of the six Atrium elevators did not work, storm damage. Jay the Shopping expert, saw only twice, outside of on TV. One was at his post, the day before his show, which he had pamphlets out for Freeport. Very, very rude and arrogant! Only saw the cruise director on TV and stage. Very, very elusive. 50% or the crew was friendly, 50% of the crew was rude. What did Carnival offer us in return, they said that they would return 1/7th of the trip, in approximately two weeks, and only charge us 6/7th's of the tip fee. Carnival did allow us to cancel the remaining two excursions we booked. We had to spend an extra hotel night, and food which Carnival said a first they would not pay us back. So I paid $1253.95 for a five day boat ride, with no compensation from Carnival, no discount or upgrades for a future cruise, no payment for my room I had to rent so I could catch this cruise. Carnival did N-O-T-H-I-N-G! Food on the Lido deck and most items in the dining room, unless it came directly from the grill was cold and outside of the temperature safety holding zones. The busboys seemed to be standing around and only cleared tables when they felt like the really needed to, in non peak serving times. A ships tour of the kitchen was something else! I am a retired chef and a restaurant manager and the kitchen was "dirty". I would have been embarrassed to invite anyone to come into any of my kitchens and see the dried on food on carts, the floor needing deck scrubbing badly, standing water, food splattered n the sides of walk-in fridges, and poor food preparation. The stainless steel walls stainless steel looked like they had not been polished in months. The quantity of different gourmet meals offered for dinner each dinner meal has decreased to just a few gourmet meals and what food other items that was offered is something I could get in any Mom & Pop Diner. This was my 9th cruise, and the worst one I have ever been on. I expected a lot more from Carnival than what I got this time. If this is the "New" Carnival way of doing business, I and a lot of guest do not approve of it! I had to pay an extra $140, room and food, that I did not plan on. In my personal opinion, Carnival has gone from a very good cruise line to a so-so cruise line. Even though our next cruise will qualify us for platinum status, we are seriously thinking about trying another line. Read Less
Sail Date November 2011
We love Bermuda (this was to be our 5th visit), so when I saw that this was the last cruise to Bermuda out of Baltimore this year, I jumped on it. We are relatively experienced cruisers - we have been to Bermuda a cruise ships twice ... Read More
We love Bermuda (this was to be our 5th visit), so when I saw that this was the last cruise to Bermuda out of Baltimore this year, I jumped on it. We are relatively experienced cruisers - we have been to Bermuda a cruise ships twice previously, but we have never cruised on Carnival before. After we booked the cruise we found that Bob's brother also had a large group going. We have never managed to get on the same sailing with him before and we were looking forward to it. Eating with them made up for the somewhat disappointing food. I rented a scooter for our last cruise to Alaska and it worked really well, so I had bought a scooter and was going to try it out on this cruise. After we picked up the rental car Saturday and loaded all the luggage and scooter into it in preparation to driving to the port Sunday, we got a robo call notifying us that the ship was late. Normally we rent a car and drive to the port as this is cheaper than paying for parking. Finally I got an email from Carnival stating that we would board Monday morning 9-12 because the ship ran into the big low with seas of 20 feet and the young teen club and the arcade room on deck 4 were damaged. We live a good two hour drive (90 miles) from the airport. It would be difficult for us to get to Baltimore by 9 - I used to do it when I was working, but I had to leave before 6 a.m. After a lot of discussion, Bob thought we should turn in the rental car and drive my car up. I found a hotel (Country Inn & Suites near BWI) that had free cruise parking and made a reservation there for Sunday night. The room was $139 and we could leave the car for up to 20 days for free. This is a much better deal than renting a car each way and MUCH MUCH cheaper than paying for parking at the pier. So we returned the rental car (it cost us $33 to drive 20 miles - from the rental place to our house and back), and canceled the other car which because it was pre-paid was $10 more. We drove up to the port Sunday, checked into the hotel and watched football. In the morning there was free breakfast and a free shuttle to the port. Embarkation at Baltimore is always good. The only glitch was that I have a new watch that set off the beeper (my old watch was plastic). I (on my scooter) scootered up the ramp and we found our room by 9:30 a.m. It wasn't quite ready, but they let us put our carry-on luggage in it. We liked our cabin. Even though it was not a handicapped cabin, there was plenty of space to walk around the beds whether they were configured as a king or as singles, and more than adequate storage. We told the stewards that we wanted the beds separated so that I could come in, do a three point turn and park the scooter against the wall at the end of the bed. There is a fridge but it is a good thing we don't want to use it because it is behind where we parked the scooter. We put the table and stool sideways under the desk to give us scooter room. Each bed has a small nightstand, but it does not have drawers. Above the section with the ice bucket and the safe is the TV which seems to have the Florida Channel 7 (good as it gave us news of Tropical Storm Sean in advance of the other channels) as well as Fox News. It also has a very good bow camera and a stern camera. However the software which showed the ship's position was extremely primitive and uninformative. There was a tiny bathroom with a shower in the corner, but there IS space to put stuff on shelves. The room stewards were really good, and made wonderful towel animals in addition to keeping everything spotless. I thought the decor of the ship was a little over the top with lots of Renaissance type paintings and other types of art - very explicit nudes and such things and the ship is showing a little wear. Bob thought that if they threw out all the fake columns and frames, the ship would be lighter by at least a ton. The elevators were small and I had to drive the scooter straight in and let others fit in around me (and the hold door open button did not work so I had to be quick to get in or the doors closed), but we rarely had to wait long for an elevator. There seemed to be nice music playing in the public room that was enjoyable to listen to. We did not go to any shows but the people that did seemed to like them. No one could sign on to the internet cafe on embarkation because the new people had not been entered on the computer. I actually won the raffle for free internet so I had a marvelous time posting photos etc. on this trip. The internet speed was at least as fast as usual on a cruise ship. Food - I had heard that Carnival had excellent food, but they changed their menus before this cruise and I was absolutely NOT impressed with the food, or the general service in the dining room. I hated eating in the Lido because there is no way to do this realistically with a scooter or wheelchair. Each food station has a line to wait in and I have the scooter because I can't stand for very long. Even though they have trays, when I manage to get food, I have nowhere to put it while I get to a table. We worked it out that Bob would get me a sandwich from the deli and some desert, or else we went and got hot dogs and chicken nuggets from around the pool. Breakfast was pretty good although I think the food would have been hotter and done more to order in the buffet. But as above, I never went to the buffet if I could avoid it. Lunch and dinner food was spotty in quality - some very good and some really awful. Seafood was less reliable than beef. I had snails once that were good and the next time they had a funny taste. I had Oysters Rockefeller and it was good but some people they were not cooked at all. The dinner waiters were better than the lunch waiters.To access the outside decks, I had to get off the scooter while holding the door open and push the scooter over the threshold as it was too high for the scooter and both the front and back wheels were off the ground. I liked that we could go all the way around the stern on the promenade deck, but not that we couldn't get closer to the bow. For the lifeboat drill I was not allowed to go outside for it and did it inside, which I did not mind at all. Since we left port about noon rather than at dusk, I was able to get some pictures of the port and bridges and lighthouses that I normally would not be able to see in the dark. It was a little rough going out to Bermuda, but we have no problem with rough weather and it was not as rough as some cruises we have been on. I wouldn't go so far as to say we like it, but we like the quieter ship that results from rough weather. Since we had been to Bermuda before and had seen most of the major attractions, I had a plan that did not involve ship excursions. Had been going to do an excursion I would NOT have picked any snorkeling, swimming or glass bottom boat excursions as I know from experience that this time of year the water will be too cold for swimming and too rough to see anything. We did this cruise back to back so we didn't get off in Baltimore. After everyone was off the ship (about 10:30), they escorted us off and back on again - very quick and nice. Read Less
Sail Date November 2011
We chose this cruise because of destination, Bermuda, and the fact it was only 52 miles from home. The trip to Baltimore was easy with plenty of time to spare. We arrived early, around 11AM. and were able to board early. very easy ... Read More
We chose this cruise because of destination, Bermuda, and the fact it was only 52 miles from home. The trip to Baltimore was easy with plenty of time to spare. We arrived early, around 11AM. and were able to board early. very easy embarktion, very smooth and courteous.We walked around and then went to the lido deck for lunch. The ship was delayed, and we watched while they loaded late deliveries. Our room was ready early and bags were there. Great service. Room was clean and spacious although the balcony could have been bigger. Room steward was super. Trip a bit rocky to start but smoothed out. The speakers throughout the ship need to be updated, as most times you couldn't understand what they were saying. Dinner was open time,and we never waited more than 5 minutes. Very polite service, but never got a hot meal in the dinning room. Hostess was very nice but the last two nights our serves were slow or non entities. Breakfast and lunches at the Buffet. Pools very small, Hot tubs even smaller. Shows OK but not as good as the other cruise. Casino very outdated and laid out poorly. Would probably go back, only if they go out of Baltimore and to somewhere we haven't been. Read Less
Sail Date September 2011
This was our second cruise this year on the Pride. We enjoyed our first one very much, and decided to return to try their Bermuda cruise, never having been to that location. Embarkation was quick and easy. We arrived in Baltimore ... Read More
This was our second cruise this year on the Pride. We enjoyed our first one very much, and decided to return to try their Bermuda cruise, never having been to that location. Embarkation was quick and easy. We arrived in Baltimore just before 1, and were able to get on board with virtually no waiting. Went up to the Lido deck for lunch, and while waiting for our cabin to be ready, stopped at the dining room to change our dinner time. This was easy and quick, again no lines, and the maitre d' was very pleasant and efficient. Got to our room around 3 pm; our room stewart Angel was there to greet us, but unfortunately our luggage was not delivered promptly, and didn't arrive until after dinner. Angel did a great job of taking care of our room all week, though. Our first day at sea was extremely windy, with high seas. Most of the pools and hot tubs were closed, and it was very difficult to walk around the ship. The captain clearly did not deploy the stabilizers. I know that they do cut down on fuel efficiency, but felt they should have been used in this situation. Quite a few passengers were seasick. Fortunately, conditions improved by dinnertime, and after that evening, things went much more smoothly. It was interesting to compare this September trip with our July cruise to the Bahamas. Very few kids this time, so we were actually able to use the pools and hot tubs! We still were unable to get a lounge on the Serenity deck, though. People arrive very early in the morning and hog them all day. Tuesday night we had dinner at David's Steakhouse. The meal was delicious and beautifully presented. For breakfast we generally went to the omelet station in the Mermaid Grill -- sometimes the lines were a bit long, but the freshly-prepared eggs were a big improvement over the pre-cooked ones in the buffet. We usually had lunch in the grill as well; some of the buffet lines were long, but if you don't go when the buffet first opens, you can usually get your meal without too much of a wait. For dinner, we decided to try "anytime" dining for the first time, and liked it very much. Again, don't go when the dining room first opens and you won't have to wait in line. Dining room staff was very efficient. Several times we were in a bit of a hurry, and they always brought our meals very promptly. Our days in Bermuda were hot and sunny, and we really enjoyed spending 2 overnights in the port. In the future I will definitely look for cruises that have overnight stays. We had time to visit beaches and the city of Hamilton, but unfortunately didn't get to St. George because the ferries don't run very frequently. Wish we'd known that in advance, so we could have managed our time more efficiently. None of the shore excursions sounded very interesting, so we didn't sign up for any -- maybe we should have! Entertainment on the ship is very good. We really enjoyed Ron Joseph's Motown show, very entertaining. The Pride Showband also did a Motown night in the Starry Nights bar, and vocalist Kelsey really got the crowd up and dancing. On our last Pride cruise I complained that there wasn't enough of an opportunity to dance -- maybe somebody listened! We also attended some Karaoke and Superstar Live just to hear the band, even though I'm not a big karaoke fan. The stage shows are a bit dated but very well performed by the singers and dancers. Loved comedian Percy Crews, didn't see any of the other comics. Watched the Legends show on Saturday night; if you enjoy seeing your fellow guests get as wacky as they can be, you'll enjoy this. Most of them were not wonderful singers, though, and personally I prefer watching the professionals. Although seeing cruise director Brent as Dolly Parton was pretty funny! We used the spa several times; Daniella gave me one of the best massages I've ever had -- very relaxing and enjoyable. Went to the gym a few times, and everything there is in good shape. Without exception, the crew on this ship is wonderful. We make a point of talking to as many of them as possible, and were always greeted with a smile, and often by name. Some of them even remembered us from our last cruise. Debarkation went smoothly. We were one of the last groups scheduled to depart, so we took our time with breakfast in the Grill and relaxed by the pool for a while. We were off the ship by 11. Read Less
Sail Date September 2011
Carnival Pride Ratings
Category Editor Member
Cabins 4.0 4.4
Dining 4.0 3.9
Entertainment 4.0 3.7
Public Rooms 4.0 4.2
Fitness Recreation 4.0 4.0
Family 5.0 4.0
Shore Excursion 4.0 3.8
Enrichment 3.0 3.5
Service 4.5 4.3
Value For Money 5.0 4.0
Rates N/A 4.2

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