The Decline of Cruise Ship Elevator Etiquette?

December 6, 2011 | By | 194 Comments

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“I have always wondered how common courtesy goes out the window when it comes to elevator etiquette,” begins a missive to the Sea-Mail inbox from Ria Maratheftis. “If I am waiting for an elevator & a few people come along & press the button, then why do they think they should be the first ones to jump on?”
Indeed, as ‘tis the season to be cranky as well as jolly, we decided this week to wade into the morass of cruise manners. “Are manners at sea getting better these days,” we posted over on Cruise Critic’s Facebook yesterday. “Or worse?”

Let’s put it this way: In the more than 70 comments received, two people, count ‘em, a deuce, preferred to take a glass half full approach to the issue. (Love this one from Richard Durham: “Just got off of the Carnival Magic Sunday, and it’s still about the same. Some of us are just happy to be on a cruise ship, and others wouldn’t be happy if they won Powerball.”) The rest of the responses laid into fellow cruise passengers for boorish behavior onboard — and elevators easily topped the list of the most likely places to run into rudeness.
Manners are “WORSE!” shrieks Mary Lou Snyder. “One can rarely try to get off an elevator onboard without people trying to force their way in before letting the disembarkers out!” Or how about this one, as told by LouAnn Ferrari-Jacobs: “Got in the elevator one morning and one guy said to one of the Carnival crewmembers ‘what are you doing in here?’ We were dumbfounded at such a rude remark. Who raised these people?”
And I’m sorry, but I hate it when active-looking passengers get on an elevator to travel just one floor. Seriously. Take the steps. Message from the editor: We messed up. Thanks to Rachel, Fluffies and others who have made a very good point about the comment above that we’ve since crossed out. I understand your perspective; I have a family member who has a handicapped tag on his car but looks perfectly healthy. He gets some strange looks, but really can’t walk far. So again — mea culpa.
But is it just passengers who are to blame? When designing new ships or refurbishing old ones, do cruise lines include enough elevators, and make them more efficient in the process? On Grand Princess a few months ago, the ancient and creaky mid-ship bank of elevators, which inexplicably weren’t included in the ship’s massive, multi-million dollar refurbishment in May were ridiculously slow moving and, as a result, were usually packed. To make matters worse, Grand Princess’ odd design does not include midship staircases that go beyond the three atrium decks. If you don’t ride the elevator you have to walk forward or aft if you want to climb to cabin decks and above.
And how about debarkation day, when all the carry-your-own passengers, who are told they should leave simultaneously, are trying to stuff so many huge suitcases into elevators that you actually have to commandeer an empty one going up to come down?
Actually, lines and passengers share the blame for that part of the equation.
Consider our buttons pushed, so now it’s your turn: when it comes to elevator etiquette, what’s the one rule you would enforce?
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    194 Responses to “The Decline of Cruise Ship Elevator Etiquette?”

    1. Chuck
      December 7th, 2011 @ 7:38 am

      On more than a few occasions on my last cruise, people would try to board the elevators before the rest of us could exit. Holy moley, is it that hard to figure out that some people might want to get off?

    2. Andy Scott
      December 7th, 2011 @ 10:20 am

      My wife and I have been on many cruises and continue to do so. Given the unfitness, podginess and general girth of some of the passengers we see bloating their way around cruise ships and seeing just how much they eat (And then complain about to anyone that listens – mainly in the lifts), perhaps it’s time that some of them engaged in usage of the stairs killing several birds with one stone and doing their health some good in the process.

      The ships should have a ‘very elderly’ rule in place and make everyone else walk (Except those that are ill – and, I’m sorry, being a bloater is not an illness). Eat less. Get some excercise – everyone wins!

      Andy, Liverpool, UK.

    3. Anne
      December 7th, 2011 @ 10:30 am

      When the cruise lines open up their cabins at a cheap fare just to fill them, expect a lower quality clientel. In a word: Lowlife. I used to cruise to get away from lowlife. Now they follow me through cut rate deals! There is no escaping!

    4. Cara
      December 7th, 2011 @ 11:01 am

      It is true that people are less observant of elevator etiquette (and subway car etiquette) in general – and not just on cruise ships. However, growsing and labeling all people who can’t afford balcony rooms (and who come on ships as part of a cut-rate deal) as low-lifes is another example of generalized rudeness. My mother always said courtesy begets courtesy.

    5. Gorgonzola
      December 7th, 2011 @ 11:09 am

      My favorites are the passengers who exit from the front of the elevator, take one step and freeze in place so nobody else can get off.

    6. Trish
      December 7th, 2011 @ 11:12 am

      Wow. So I’m a “lowlife” because I book bargain cruise rates? Perhaps it’s those who have paid higher rates who lack manners from a sense of entitlement. I think we see plenty of this attitude in pop culture everywhere (can you say Kardashian? Paris Hilton? Lilo?). I do my best to steer clear of people like Anne, who think because I paid the bargain rate that I am less mannered (deserving?) than her.

      Re elevator etiquette: I’ve cruised 4 times, 3 different lines. I haven’t noticed any particular increase in pushy people–no more so than at any elevator in any building. Sometimes people just aren’t thinking–they may be chatting with friends and oblivious to others waiting to get on/off the elevator. I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt–makes me feel better to not harbor bad feelings about others–although I do occasionally correct children who are being pushy (usually because they don’t know any better).

    7. Jon-Paul
      December 7th, 2011 @ 11:18 am

      Um, is this just a cruise ship malady? How many times have you been trying to get off an elevator on land and faced the same issues? I think it’s a people thing.

    8. Kathy
      December 7th, 2011 @ 11:20 am

      Even worse is having someone in a wheelchair need to use the elevator! Since it is the only way for us to get from floor to floor we either have to leave extremely early or pray there are nice people waiting for the elevator. It’s terrible to have to wait for 5 or 6 elevator cars before you get one that you will fit in and then some people that just walked up to get the elevator will just walk right in when the doors open like the person in the wheelchair doesn’t exist. Just downright rude We have been late for the safety drills, dinner and shows cause we just can’t get on the elevator.

    9. Walt
      December 7th, 2011 @ 11:21 am

      The design issue is more the problem than the courtesy issue. For example, the Grand Princess design mentioned in the article is matched by the older HAL \S\ Class ships where there is no center stairway and the (too few) elevators are just forward and aft. For that reason we usually book a cabin near the rear stairways on those ships where we can walk up or down the stairs rather than wait for an \ol’ pokey\ to show up.

    10. Nancy
      December 7th, 2011 @ 11:25 am

      Hubby and I normally do the stairs unless it is more than 3 or 4 decks (and we are in our 60′s). Worse experience for me was when traveling with my elderly Mom who was in a wheelchair and very young able-bodied people would push in front and fill up the elevator before we could get on. It’s not like we had a choice to do the stairs. That’s what really irks me!

    11. Art
      December 7th, 2011 @ 11:27 am

      If there is a guy waiting for an elevator in a wheelchair for crying out loud give him a break. Let him go first. I’ve seen people cut in front of a wheelchair just to get on in front of him. REALLY????

    12. Tyler
      December 7th, 2011 @ 11:27 am

      I have experienced the “rush onto” the elevator before I could get off before and I think it is a common problem on every cruise line and in many public buildings as well. This is a main reason as to why I don’t use the elevators while onboard a cruise ship.

    13. Cptn. Sheen
      December 7th, 2011 @ 11:31 am

      When your writing about elevators it is proof that this site has nothing interesting to write about. All you do is talk negative

      LAME

    14. Barbara
      December 7th, 2011 @ 11:31 am

      We travel and cruise with another couple. We challenge each other to see what responses we get on elevators when confronted with one simple question..” good morning…are you enjoying the cruise?” you would not beleive the terrible responses we have received. We celebrate BIG TIME when someone says ” it’s just wonderful, aren’t we all so fortunate to be here?”.. But alas…it’s a rare response. 5 times out of 10.. It’s a two word response..”SO FAR”… Our best So Far response was..honestly…on the elevators as we were disembarking..they had their luggage with them. Hilarious.
      Agree with the poster…many people just love to complain. Seek out those who feel blessed to be experiencing amazing cities, cultures and people. Those kindred spirits are on the ship…just need to find them.

    15. Scott
      December 7th, 2011 @ 11:33 am

      In the more than 2 dozen cruises we have done it amazes me what we have seen. In one case we did a back-to-back in the Med two years ago. The first leg was 9 days and was marketed to the western mainland Europe cruisers and it was about 85% German. Total entitlement. The second leg was marketed to British Isle and Scandinavian cruisers, complete opposite. I Truly just think that when people are on vacation, their manners (good or bad) are heightened. It is like fashion on board. Look around the pool. You see both men and women with tan lines at the beginning of the cruise because the swim suits they wear at home are much more modest than what they subject us to on the our vacations.

      Would any of this ever make me stop cruising? NO WAY! I want to be one of those elderly couples that you see on various cruises because they live on ships. When I get board with one, I will simply change.

      Happy sailing!

    16. fluffies
      December 7th, 2011 @ 11:40 am

      Wow. Usually I’m very “on board” (so to speak) with CSB, but this comment must be addressed…

      “And I’m sorry, but I hate it when active-looking passengers get on an elevator to travel just one floor. Seriously. Take the steps.”

      Unless you’re inside my body, you don’t know how I feel. You don’t know if my chest pain is worse today than yesterday. This judgmental attitude is so prevalent that the NYC subway had to put up signs: REMEMBER, NOT ALL DISABILITIES ARE OBVIOUS. Maybe you should remember that too. Sorry if my use of the elevator arouses your hate, but I paid for the cruise too…and I love the days I feel well enough to use the stairs.

    17. Rachel
      December 7th, 2011 @ 11:41 am

      I found the comment about people only going down one floor and using the elevator quite rude! I’m sure these same people looked at us with disgust. I don’t care if it was 1, 2 or even 3 “floors” if I want to use the elevator I will. Just for a personal reference, just because someone looks like they’re capable of walking flights of stairs doesn’t mean they should have to explain why they are on the elevator to you. Our room was on the 11th deck and after walking up and down the steps the first few days the muscles in my legs felt like they were going to snap off if I walked anymore steps not to mention wearing 5 inch heels to dinner :) Thank you for all of the people who want to generalize and throw everyone in a category. As far as Anne, if you’re afraid of the “lowlife” just because they got a better deal than you, you should probably cruise on a luxury line so you don’t have to deal with us trashy people.

    18. Myrna Barron
      December 7th, 2011 @ 11:44 am

      Most of us could use a lesson in graciousness. We live in a very uptight world, become anxious and impatient. But a cruise is supposed to be our escape, a place to relax and refresh. I wish we could all leave our rudeness on the dock at embarkation. And wouldn’t it be great if, when we disembark, we didn’t pick up the rudeness where we left it, but continued on with the spirit of graciousness?

    19. Stephanie
      December 7th, 2011 @ 11:44 am

      I agree with Jon-Paul, this is definitely not confined to cruise ships. I see this behavior EVERYWHERE I go now. It’s very disturbing. :/ I often get compliments on how friendly, nice and mannerly me and my family are. Makes me sad that we stand out because of that. That should be the norm!! But, I will say that if you are on the same ship as me one day and you do something rude to me or in my sight, expect a few choice words outta me! :)

    20. Karen
      December 7th, 2011 @ 11:49 am

      I recently returned from a cruise on a large ship (Thanksgiving week)and it was packed!
      There were so many families and large groups & the elevator situation was nuts! Everyone wanted to do everything together and at the same time! Can’t blame them, however, manners were out the window! Some people just did not know, some were pushy, some were oblivious! Many were inconsiderate and did not Wait for others to exit, especially for wheelchairs and scooters. Elevator and subway etiquette should be taught to children and \adults.\ Perhaps the ships should have a TV \spot\ on their ever running sales pitches for merchandise and tours! I absolutely hate being stuck in the back of an elevator and people pack it over the limit. What if we get stuck in there, and there is no breathing room? I agree – it is people thing!

    21. Cruise Critic
      December 7th, 2011 @ 11:54 am

      Rachel and Fluffies, you both make a very good point and I apologize for the comment. I can relate to your point; I have a family member who has a handicapped tag on his car but looks perfectly healthy. He gets some strange looks but really can’t walk far. So again — mea culpa.

      Carolyn

    22. Frequent Cruiser
      December 7th, 2011 @ 12:00 pm

      My elevator peeve is people who insist, with a laugh or a giggle, “oh we can fit a few more on here”, when the doors open to an already crowded elevator car and force their way in packing the rest of us even tighter! What, you think the buffet will close? The bar will run out of booze? Pool will dry up? The casino will not take your money if you don’t get there NOW! Wait for another elevator!! Not only is their action rude, but for people like myself, who do not react well to packed, crowded places, finding myself sandwiched between bodies, my face one inch from someones shoulder or back (I’m short), can cause an anxiety attack! Please, relax and wait for the next elevator.

    23. Michel
      December 7th, 2011 @ 12:08 pm

      First, whoever wrote about the Grand should get their facts straight. There is a staircase which goes from deck 4 to 14 mid-ship just aft of the elevator lobby, check the deck plans on Princess.com.
      As far as etiquette, the elevators are just one indication of our new lifestyle of “entitlement” and lack of manners, which goes far beyond the bounds of the ship. I think that passengers have the right to use the elevators if they want and for as many floors as they want, part of the deal they signed up for. For us, cruising is a chance to get away and enjoy, for that reason we avoid elevators and other spots of high tension. That way, we focus on the “half-full” cup and enjoy the cruise experience.

    24. Monty Fisher
      December 7th, 2011 @ 12:11 pm

      Our last cruise 3/2010 on the Emerald Princess, I never saw so many rude passengers ! Boy if their hungry, or late for the evening show, watch out, especially the 60+ folks.Of course we also had problems with the Emerald’s elevators as well. Sometimes they would only go as high as deck 9 and go back down on their own, very un-predictable throughout the 10 day cruise !

    25. trent
      December 7th, 2011 @ 12:12 pm

      Really none of these “elevator etiquette” are worth getting upset about. All of these situations are normal when dealing with large crowds, the same as bottlenecks where people stop to talk in busy corridors. Now farting in an elevator… THAT is my pet peeve.

    26. Ed Breen
      December 7th, 2011 @ 12:33 pm

      On the flight back from our last cruise we changed in Schiphol which as always was crowded. As we stood in line a young couple shoved right in front of me and for the first time in my life, using a drill voice i stated \wait your turn\ I got an apology from the couple and voiced congratulations from several others. If we don’t speak up how will these folks learn? I am 82 and fairly spry!

    27. Handlbar Pete
      December 7th, 2011 @ 12:41 pm

      Years ago when I worked in a hospital, the rule then was: If you are in good health, walk one flight up or 2 flights down. I am sure that many of us would really benefit from this unenforceable rule. Aside from the obvious rudeness, another good thought is to remember that if you haven’t walked in anothers moccasins, don’t be so quick to judge!

    28. Jennifer
      December 7th, 2011 @ 12:50 pm

      I can’t stand the large groups of people who insist on getting on an already full elevator. On a recent cruise I went up to the buffet to grab some food for my daughter who was in our cabin with a headache(she wanted a specific item from the buffet). On the way back, I hopped on a fairly full elevator, covered plate of food in hand. When the elevator doors opened at the next floor a group of 8 people crammed their way on(we had room for maybe 3). One of the “crammers” knocked into me(now pressed up against the wall holding the plate over my head) and gave me the dirtiest look, like I had no business standing in that spot.

    29. Grace
      December 7th, 2011 @ 12:52 pm

      And…what about those people waiting, who push the elevator button before it has a chance to leave the floor, thereby keeping the door open and preventing it from going up or down???Haven’t they learned, especially by the end of a 12 day cruise, to wait for the elevator to leave before pushing that button again?!?

    30. Denese
      December 7th, 2011 @ 12:53 pm

      The elevator issue is really started to bother me. As long as ALL floors have stops why is anyone concerned with how many floors anyone is traveling. I am curious as to what harm is caused to the complainer from anyone going only one floor. I agree with the other posters that all disabilities are not obvious. Having had both knees replaced. I do take the elevator to the gym and go to town on the elliptical…it is a totally different motion than climbing stairs. I truly do not get it.

      Second pet peeve that I have resolved is people rushing past folks in/with mobility devices. I do not care how long I have been waiting, I ALWAYS let those folks get on first. I will even hold the door so no one tramples them. I have made some wonderful cruise friends doing this.

      I also made a decision to stop bemoaning the fact that when I enter the elevator and say “good morning, how’s everyone?”, there are far fewer responses on big ships, but lots of friendly exchanges on smaller ships. I have to accept things I can not change and ENJOY my hard worked for wonderful vacation taking the elevators one floor, saying hi to folks and helping my mobility challenged friends.

    31. Frank L.
      December 7th, 2011 @ 12:58 pm

      Unescorted kids who jump on the elevators, and push every button only to jump off the elevator, after the last button is pushed.

    32. Sarah Nelson
      December 7th, 2011 @ 12:59 pm

      I always use the stairs on the cruise. It helps keep the \pound a day\ stay away. The only exception is if it’s a formal night and I am wearing high heals that I know I shouldn’t be wearing, because walking down the stairs would lead to me breaking my neck. I don’t care if it’s 1 flight or 10, take the stairs people, and leave the elevators for those who physically can’t take the stairs.

    33. Melodie
      December 7th, 2011 @ 1:10 pm

      I have yet to take an elevator on a cruiship. The climbing is the best form of exercise you can get. The Oasis of the Seas was a challenge when your cabin is on the14th deck!

    34. Laura
      December 7th, 2011 @ 1:12 pm

      Personally, I think it’s hilarious that everyone is grousing about ELEVATOR etiquette in particular. Cruise ships aren’t skyscrapers – AT MOST, you’d have to walk 10 flights, and usually it’s far less than that. Unless you are disabled, just walk!

    35. Rob
      December 7th, 2011 @ 1:13 pm

      I’ve been on several cruises and have not had any issues with adults on the elevators. Teenagers smoking dope in the elevators and 5-10 year olds riding elevators like theme park rides ruin it for me. I’m fit, so I don’t mind taking the stairs. The dope inicident ruined it for me. Dumb teens just fired up and didn’t care. I complained to the customer service desk and got nowhere (thanks Carnival Dream).

    36. Marty
      December 7th, 2011 @ 1:13 pm

      @Jon-Paul, completely agree. I chalk it up to people just being oblivious to their surroundings whether ashore or at sea. Escalators as well. Folks are so absorbed in thought that they don’t pay attention to the here and now. I love to chuckle as the doors open and someone will realize they didn’t get off on their floor as if the elevator was supposed to ‘eject’ them. Hmmm, I could be on to something!! That would clear an opening for people getting off.

    37. JR
      December 7th, 2011 @ 1:17 pm

      My inner germophobe can’t stand it when people are eating on the elevators. First off, for their own safety. When someone coughs in the elevator, do they think none of that storm spray is landing into their food? The squegee people don’t clean the elevator every time a sicky touches a button or handrail. We just got back from a cruise and I haven’t met anyone that didn’t come down with a sinus infection either during the cruise or within a week of coming home.

    38. Explorer08
      December 7th, 2011 @ 1:19 pm

      We travel a lot and encounter a lot of rudeness everywhere. When I do, I make it a point to firmly call people out on their rude behavior. It’s the only way to make the point. Sometimes it embarrasses them and sometimes they just don’t care. At least they know, from me, that their behavior is substandard. No yelling is required, just a firm easy-to-hear voice. Speak to them as would a classroom teacher from the old days. It usually gets to them.

    39. Kelly
      December 7th, 2011 @ 1:20 pm

      complaining about wait times? Really? Where does everyone need to go in such a hurry? Aren’t you all on vacation? I bet all the sick kids in africa reading this are sympthizing with your problems.

    40. John
      December 7th, 2011 @ 1:27 pm

      My wife and I have talked during and after every cruise in the last 5 years that people should take a cruise etiquite class right after the muster station drill. People need to know how to act because obviously they cant remember how to act civilized on a cruise ship. I have to say its on all of the major lines and not just the lower priced cruises.

    41. Amy N
      December 7th, 2011 @ 1:38 pm

      Thanks CC for your mea culpa – my husband is one of those who *looks* perfectly healthy but actually has a serious heart condition. We walk the stairs as often as we can but sometimes, elevators are necessary. We love cruising because it is one form of travel that he can tolerate very well.
      I like a previous poster’s idea of asking people how the cruise has been! Will have to add that to our cruise elevator manners.

    42. dmj
      December 7th, 2011 @ 1:42 pm

      Just reiterating..”Don’t judge a book by it’s cover”..or disabilities by appearances. I have asthma, which is often aggravated by smoke, and there is no way I can climb stairs when I can’t breath. Also, after an accident on active duty, I sometimes have difficulty walking, esp. stairs. We often take elevators to avoid aggravating these conditions when symptoms 1st appear. I’m relatively young and look in shape. However I’m getting tired of people giving me dirty looks when I need to use the elevator to “go up 1 floor”.

    43. George
      December 7th, 2011 @ 2:09 pm

      I never take the elevator. The secret to mainting your weight is to take the stairs. The elevators are for people who really need them. That includes carrying luggage on embarkation/disembarkation days up the stairs. A typical day involves going from the room on 10, to breakfast on 15, back to the room, to 5 to visit the port, back and up ten flights for ice cream, back to the room… Well, you get the picture. Incidentally, I’m 63.

    44. Jean M
      December 7th, 2011 @ 2:16 pm

      I believe that some people just think about themselves these days, its what in it for me. No courtesy or manners. As my husband tells me all the time when we witness this, I really think many people just don’t relize they are doing it, but I disagree with him totally!

    45. Mark G
      December 7th, 2011 @ 2:25 pm

      Well I am one of those people that will take an elevator 1 or 2 floors as I have Pulmonary Hypertension and have trouble doing a lot of strenous activities without an O2 Tank which I dont carry with me everywhere. I dont mind walking down a flight of stairs which I do a lot but when it comes to going up its the elevator for me. I look healthy from the otside and I am 33 but have a tough time with the lung problem even though everything else is normal and yes I get a lot of rude looks if I park in a handicapped parking too. Not fun being in that position day after day so I agree about not judging everyone as some have disabilities that make regular day to day life a struggle. And just an FYI before I was stricken with the disease I was Scuba Diving, Hiking, and working physically demanding jobs no I cant do any of those.

    46. A.B Normal
      December 7th, 2011 @ 2:35 pm

      Trent, I didn’t know you were on the lift when I slipped that little air-biscuit out. My bad.

    47. Jimanne D
      December 7th, 2011 @ 2:36 pm

      In my opinion it all boils down to these simple words – consideration for other people.

    48. Cruise Critic
      December 7th, 2011 @ 2:37 pm

      Michel (#23), actually facts are quite straight; it’s Princess’ deck plans for Grand that don’t tell the whole story. The central staircase that does go up to deck 14 mid-ship is closed to passengers after the Promenade deck. It was a design flaw that Princess corrected when it built Grand Princess.

    49. Marj
      December 7th, 2011 @ 2:56 pm

      I agree with Kelly – you’re on a vacation, folks. What’s the hurry! I thought cruises
      were for leisure, remember the word?

    50. Aaron
      December 7th, 2011 @ 2:57 pm

      The rushing on before I get off thing…the wife hates it when I do this but it makes the point:

      I wait let them push their way on and bout stop over my family and son…then while I am in the back I clearly state \Now hold the elevator please..so I can get off..thank you!!!\ Usually gets a laugh out the son, a chuckle or two and a strong glare from the wife but I enjoy it. Quite a few times seen some of the same people see me and wait!..LOL

    51. ssh
      December 7th, 2011 @ 3:04 pm

      I am glad the “invisible” disability statement was removed. I am 21 and have been fortunate enough to join my parents on a number of cruises.

      I was born with a heart valve defect, which we knew would eventually require surgical repair. I was told in January 2010 to have the surgery that summer, although we already had a mid-June cruise on Veendam planned. We discussed canceling the cruise or moving it up as a family, and decided to move it up to late May. Truthfully, I really did not know if I would make it out of the surgery alive (I was not debilitated, but it is open heart surgery) and wanted to at least have that time with all of us together.

      Those of you who have been to Hamilton may be familiar with the long, winding ramp that leads from quayside to the terminal building, which is quite steep. An older woman whose husband was in a wheelchair asked for help pushing her husband. My dad indicated to me not to do so, he would do it, knowing that I was having OHS in one week and not in a good cardiac state. After the woman’s husband was up the ramp, I was loudly chastised and chewed out for “making my pa” push him while I was “perfectly healthy” by the man my father had pushed. This was pretty upsetting for me given the stress of the surgery in a week, and is a great example of not only silent disability discrimination, but also age discrimination at work. We were all flabergasted, but later in the cruise (small ship) saw this couple and my father did explain to them the situation and they did apologize.

      A year later we we decided to return to Veendam and do the very same cruise. This time, my Mom broke her leg and was in a wheelchair. However, she’s always in such great spirits that we also decided to still go on the cruise. One afternoon while we were sitting at the pool I went inside to the Lido to get her and myself a late lunch. I was then chastised by an older gentleman for taking too much food and that “you’ll spoil your appetite for supper!” 1) I am 21 years old and can go to war for my country, so also feel that I am capable of selecting my own food portions. 2) We have 8 PM dinner, not 5 PM. 3) As I informed him, the second plate was for my Mother who was in a wheelchair.

      Again, in this instance it’s not an issue where I feel like I was wronged by these folks. In general, these are the minority – most people were overwhelmingly helpful and friendly when my mom was in the wheelchair. However, I think it’s a reminder to all of us that we must think before we speak or judge someone else, because we never truly know what they are going through or what hand they’ve been dealt.

    52. Alena
      December 7th, 2011 @ 3:04 pm

      I was reading the article and comments and was wondering why after 19 cruises I can’t encounter a single negative memory about elevators ? Maybe, because I never let someone who doesn’t know any better to ruin my perfect cruise day? Are you waiting too long? What’s a rush? Someone seems rude? Just feel sorry for him and send some positive energy. And when you can – just take a walk! I m actually loosing a weight on the cruise by taking stairs whenever I can. Why to have pet peeves on your cruise? Why to let anything negative, especially so unimportant, to leave a negative mark in you cruise vacation?!

    53. Capt. Len
      December 7th, 2011 @ 3:11 pm

      I have an art. knee but look healthy but tendon damage makes getting up from a seat difficult let alone climbing chairs but I do when on my own ( and pay for it) but my companion uses a mobility scooter so stairs are out. On the recent Magic TA there were lots of rental scooters and wheel chairs and people would dash to beat them into the elevator. The elevators had glass lamps on the rear wall and we say about day 9 or 10 these were dissappearing. People were trying to beat the able body aboard with the scooter and smashing the lamps. Their are photos of the damage posted in some of the blogs. People were not just rude but STUPID !

    54. Jen F
      December 7th, 2011 @ 3:16 pm

      I think it is a people thing. The most frustrating thing to me is people who insist on trying to come on to an elevator before people coming off on that floor have a chance to exit. They are usually the same people who say “I paid for my vacation. I can act however I darn well please. I can do whatever I want.” Well, the rest of the passengers on the ship paid for their journey as well and not all of them behave poorly. Just because you paid your way doesn’t mean you get to act like a jerk to other people. And another thing, you also shouldn’t be jerky to other people just because you are residing in a more expensive cabin class.

    55. Larry Park
      December 7th, 2011 @ 3:17 pm

      It makes little difference if you’re on a cruise ship or an office building: people have become so self absorbed they can only think of one thing – getting in or out of an elevator. The simple law of physics (two objects can’t occupy the same space) is totally dismissed when elevator doors open.

      It’s really simple: when elevator doors open if you hesitate for a nano-second before trying to enter, people that ARE in the elevator trying to exit can do so which in turn makes room for YOU! (The most important person in the universe, naturally)

    56. TJ Hill
      December 7th, 2011 @ 3:18 pm

      My ladyfriend and I have had the pleasure of cruising 16 times. I walk with a cane and cannot count the number of times I have been tripped while trying to get off of an elevator by people forcing their way in.

    57. Larry
      December 7th, 2011 @ 3:18 pm

      We plan ahead to go on a cruise…a boat that goes maybe 25 miles an hour and takes days to get anywhere. What is our hurry?

      I spent many years in the corporate world. Believe me, bad manners does not wear a suit, a beard, or track shoes. I comes in all sizes, shapes, and income levels.

      I spent my first cruise on the Ryndam a year ago and, because the elevators were slow and full, had a good time meeting the other passengers. After two days I knew a lot of nice people…

    58. Roger Anthos
      December 7th, 2011 @ 3:23 pm

      I guess because i fall ito the category of (Some of us are just happy to be on a cruise ship..lol) I never noticed the issue but I let people off before I get on and not noticed any crazy behavior. Then again I cruise on ships that let you go to dinner whenever and since i take a later dinner there is no rush for the restaurant!

    59. Sore knee
      December 7th, 2011 @ 3:33 pm

      I recently returned from a long cruise on which I had pulled a muscle at the back of my knee-therefore I deliberately rested my knee by taking the elevators when I was in pain and on sea days so my knee would feel as good as possible for walking about the ship and onshore. Since when have elevators become only for the “disabled”. Of course I would happily have a wheelchair passenger get on before me but remember the elevators are for use by anyone who wishes to use them and it never occurred to me while on my cruise to stop and think about or comment on why some people were taking the elevators rather than the stairs!

    60. marylou
      December 7th, 2011 @ 3:35 pm

      Rudeness is endemic throughout this country..why should cruise ships be exempt?

    61. John
      December 7th, 2011 @ 3:45 pm

      I am in a wheelchair and people run in front of me. IF I could take the stairs I would.

    62. Mark W
      December 7th, 2011 @ 3:51 pm

      The best elevator etiquette and the most healthy is to take the stairs. I make it a point to take the stairs. It helps burn off all those calories. Since my wife gets seasick but she loves to cruise, we always get one of those “low-life” cabins in the bottom and center of the ship, so we get a lot of good exercise going up and down the stairs. Let the people who physically have to take the elevators have them and the rest of us avoid them for our own sanity and health.

    63. Jason
      December 7th, 2011 @ 3:55 pm

      @kelly, there are no kids in Africa reading this haha. This is a place for people who read an article about a specific thing to discuss the topic further. All opinions are welcome. It you want to discuss bigger problems in the world, I’m sure there are a ton of starving children in Africa stories for you to go read and make your comments. This one is about cruise ships elevators.

    64. MimiCruising
      December 7th, 2011 @ 4:00 pm

      I love riding elevators. If gives you a chance to connect with strangers for a minute, which is usually quite pleasant.

    65. david
      December 7th, 2011 @ 4:01 pm

      Pharting in the elevator is the worst. Next comes leaving trash (i.e., drinking glasses, half-eaten food, candy wrappers, loosing peal-back bingo tickets, etc.) on the floor.

    66. Laura
      December 7th, 2011 @ 4:05 pm

      My husband is in a wheelchair and we just returned from aboard the Ruby Princess. In general, most people were friendly and helpful. We did run into a few who just walked in front of us as though we didn’t exist. I think they may have been Andy Scott, an earlier commenter, judging from the healthy and fit manner they evidenced as they sprinted in the elevator car in front of us.

      Seriously, if you can’t handle rude people, people who are ‘pudgy’ and those you think are beneath your stature, do the rest of the world a favor and buy your own yacht or better yet, stay home. None of the rest of us enjoy the shadow cast from your very large, intrusive nose.

      As for myself, I just assume rude people have so little in life going for them, that them taking my space in an elevator may be the only joy they have for the day. Glad to help you get your jollies…

    67. Melody Wood
      December 7th, 2011 @ 4:10 pm

      My family and I recently returned from a relaxing, and might I say, glorious two week Holland America cruise. Most of us, aged 45 – 83 usually took the stairs for the convenience and exercise… and to compensate for the abundant indulgence afforded us.

      My attitude is one of awe when I consider how affordable luxury is these days. As a young girl I thought I would never be able to afford a trip to Disneyland, yet a few short years later I am experiencing a sort of paradise in the middle of the Pacific ocean. I am truly grateful.

      I do have a suggestion for those of us who are a bit more athletic, though… The next time I see someone who appears anxious or in some way more in need of the elevator, I will gladly step off giving them my space and take the stairs. Amen to that!

    68. Melanie A
      December 7th, 2011 @ 4:22 pm

      I agree that rude elevator riders are everywhere. Like those who block the opening elevator to get on before those on the elevator can actually get off. Or how about the guy in the back yelling at everyone that we’re at his floor and to move (which you can’t because there are people in front of you trying to exit). How about posting a sign on the outside that states “Please form a single line to the left (arrow) for elevator. Allow those already on the elevator to exit before entering”. But that would only work for those who actually read and can follow instructions, now.

    69. Terri
      December 7th, 2011 @ 4:24 pm

      I love reading these! It’s so interesting to see how people react to adverse situations. yes, etiquette is very important and not enough people use it, but part of noblesse oblige is to show kindness when none is given. It’s usually hurting people that do unkind things. Breathe deeply, think a funny thought, and be glad that you don’t have to live with that person’s problems or life!

    70. mandie
      December 7th, 2011 @ 4:28 pm

      I have cruised many times since I was a little girl with my parents and now I am in my late 40′s I am enjoying cruising with my husband and friends. I thought I would just share little bit of elevator humour with all of you as this seems to be such an issue for some of you and I do agree there are many people without manners on these ships but I also encounter some wonderfully kind and polite individuals also. We were cruising last year on Celebrity Azamara which is a lovely small ship and one evening entered a lift for our destination, a lady in her 50′s entered on the next floor who was very well dressed, and another lady also entered, as we began to move the first lady allowed herself to very loudly pass wind but she did not flinch or acknowledge this at all. I tried my hardest to ignore this but having a very wicked sense of humour started to smile then shake with laughter at the same time trying to keep it silent but try as I may this was not going to happen my husband was also struggling to control himself as was the second lady who was in the lift. The next stop came and we left even though it was not our floor and I fell on the floor howling with laughter and tears falling if you can imagine the scene. Because we were making so much noise a passenger came up from the floor below to see what had happened and she too thought this was hilarious so, for all of you who have an unhappy memory of manners in a lift, mine tops it all and I still dine out on the story when I tell my friends!! To all you cruisers out there just enjoy your time remembering the countries you have been to not the lifts you travelled in !!

    71. beachcomberT
      December 7th, 2011 @ 4:35 pm

      I’ve been on half a dozen cruises and didn’t encounter anything particularly rude or hostile in my levator rides. My first cruise in 1995 involved pushing my elderly dad in a wheelchair, and I quickly learned that ship corridors and elevators are not well designed for handicapped access. Many passengers kindly let me and my dad go first, and I was grateful for that courtesy. Hopefully, the newer ships have made their elevators, halls and doorways more roomy. After all, we aging boomers increasingly will need wheelchairs and scooters to get around. That shouldn’t be hard for the ship architects to figure out.

    72. Angela Jamieson
      December 7th, 2011 @ 4:39 pm

      Complaining doesn’t help. Why does everyone expect someone else to take care of what bother’s them. If it bother’s you enough, speak up. Kindess in speaking goes a long way. A very polite, excuse me but….we are too crowded, or please let us get off before you enter, or please let the wheelchair on etc… It’s really very simple. Everyone is on vacation. Remember 95% of people are kind, it’s the 5% that stand out. Don’t let them ruin your vacation. Speaking up doesn’t mean they will listen, but they will hear it and be more wary. I know sometimes I am oblivious when I am on vacation and looking around at everything.

    73. Marybor
      December 7th, 2011 @ 4:40 pm

      What annoys me most about elevators, anywhere, is there I am, waiting for it to arrive, along comes another body, and calls the lift again. Am I just standing there because I like standing by lifts, or what?

    74. Adrian
      December 7th, 2011 @ 4:42 pm

      I don’t have any problems with elevator/lift etiquette on cruise ships because, as a reasonably fit 63 year old, I only use the stairs. However, I do think that not all the fit looking people waiting for the elevators can have something hidden wrong with them.

      When I do have to use a lift in a building (usually because I can’t find the stairs or they’re fire stairs only), I think it’s an absolute basic to give way to someone in a wheelchair or obviously handicapped.

    75. Laine Wightman
      December 7th, 2011 @ 4:43 pm

      I use a mobility scooter because I have a neuro muscular problem. Cruise ship elevators are always a zoo. I think anyone that wants to can ride on them, but the pushing past anyone waiting for the elevator (often we wait for five or six to go by)to get on, and not letting those on get off, is so rude and problematic. I have met many people on the elevator that never realized how much walking there is on ships, and are totally exhausted at the end of the day, wishing they had known they could rent a w/chair or scooter. I take my own, but always try to help them out for “next time” They look fine, are probably in ordinary shape, but they have a tough time standing and waiting for elevator after elevator to go by. The ones with kids pushing every button, with no supervision, are a pain, too.

    76. Harry Figov
      December 7th, 2011 @ 4:45 pm

      I just finished a cruise on the Nieuw Amsterdam and was holding the doors on an elevator so passengers could get out. In the process of holding the door open button I was apparently blocking the exit for a large female passenger in her thirties who had a coffee cup in her hand. Instead of saying excuse me she was extremely rude.

      That is what you get for trying to help and all the other elevator passengers commented after she had exited.

    77. ellen
      December 7th, 2011 @ 4:47 pm

      I’m one of these “healthy” and even “slightly pudgy” people who ride the elevator one floor when they could just as well walk…and I’m writing this comment from an orthopedic rehab facility, where I’m recovering from hip replacement surgery! I started my cruise on NCL Epic in October happily walking stairs, but my cortisone shot wore off mid-cruise and I could barely walk after that.

      So thank you for crossing out the pet peeve about the healthy person being too lazy to walk stairs. Believe me, I would have LOVED to have been able to walk stairs on my last cruise! But unless you watched me walk and saw my limp, you’d never have known that I had such a serious physical issue.

    78. Robert Tully
      December 7th, 2011 @ 4:48 pm

      While I agree with much of the annoying behavior on cruise ship elevators but you cannot assume that anyone who uses one to go floor could be due to a medical condition. On our last cruise I had a leg problem that made it difficult to go up even one flight of stairs.

      One compliant I did not see was when someone with children get on and push the button for every floor then get off after a floor or two. This is something I find this to be another annoying rude behavior on elevators on both cruise ships and anywhere else.

    79. Dana
      December 7th, 2011 @ 4:49 pm

      On our last cruise, we took the stairs EVERY time, save when we and our hand luggage had to go up several decks to muster for disembarkation. That along with a couple of trips to the gym, kept us from gaining weight, despite good food and copious amounts of wine! (And we’re in our early 50′s.)

      Save the elevators for people of limited mobility.

    80. Larry
      December 7th, 2011 @ 4:50 pm

      My wife and I have been on several cruises and i guess we have been lucky. I don’t think we have ever experienced rudeness on an elevator. If we did, maybe we were just enjoying the cruise so much we didn’t notice it. I tend to be wound pretty tight but cruising seems to let me way unwind. If someone is in a hurry to get on the elevator, I guess I would let them and just wait for the next one. As someone said, you just are NOT going to make some people happy. That is why we always try to get open seating. If we run into the rare person we do not mesh well with, we just watch for them and adjust our place in line so we don’t have to deal with it. So, my suggestion is relax, enjoy the cruise, and don’t fret the small stuff.

    81. Doug
      December 7th, 2011 @ 4:58 pm

      On my last Enchantment cruise, elevator etiquette seemed to be left at the dock. There were a number of occasions that we were bulldozed getting off. The other thing that seems to be happening more often is how many people can we cram on the elevator. One evening I just let it go, after 5 people that forced their way on and left their friends in the lobby. I said loudly, “Come on in, we can get about 8 more in!” as the doors shut. The lady in front of me had a very hard time not laughing. But I was not done! I proclaimed that I had just heard the CD state that they were running out of food in the Windjammer and you better hurry before it was gone! That one did it and the lady was laughing so hard she was crying! In the long run we really cant help how rude or inconsiderate some people are. We can only make sure that we are doing the right thing. It helps though if you can make the other people look a little silly!

    82. Alan
      December 7th, 2011 @ 4:58 pm

      For what it’s worth, I’ve been “guilty” of cutting in front of someone in a wheelchair, but it was with the best of intentions. The ones that get on the elevator first get sent to the back and will generally get more packed in. So by going first, I’m giving the person in the wheelchair more space. Perhaps I should be more explicit next time.

    83. Dana
      December 7th, 2011 @ 5:04 pm

      I have been on more then 30 cruises. My favorite is when people leave the gym, and ride the elevator. I take the stairs as often as possible, to help with all the excess food and to leave the elevators for those that have difficulty with stairs. When traveling with my parents who are both in wheelchairs there are so many time we would wait for half an hour to get to dinner because of all the fit young people not using the stairs. And there were so many times people would push their way through so we would have to wait even longer. Common courtesy seems to be a dying art.

    84. gorgonzola
      December 7th, 2011 @ 5:05 pm

      My complaint has to do with those rude individuals who wait to get on the elevator to break wind. Is it so difficult to step out on the deck to relieve oneself before boarding the elevator? These vulgar cruise passengers must have been raised on a pork farm and are immune to their own disgusting body odors.

    85. Joe G
      December 7th, 2011 @ 5:05 pm

      I seem to be the only one reading this that hasn’t been on a cruise, but the comments sure provided an education. Thanks to those with the positive remarks and to those who have encountered rudeness. If I saw someone trying to beat a wheelchair-bound person onto an elevator, I’d try to halt that person’s progress with a stiff arm–assuming I was near enough to the person to have an effect.

    86. Dolly
      December 7th, 2011 @ 5:05 pm

      There is a remedy – if able, do as I do. Walk up and down. And I am 81 years old; ;it’s good exercise!

    87. Rebecca
      December 7th, 2011 @ 5:05 pm

      My complain is just the opposite of some..I hate it when people will not move back to let people on…acting like the elvator is all filled up when there is room for more if they would take three steps back! Take the stairs if the elevator is too crowded for you .

    88. Paul
      December 7th, 2011 @ 5:08 pm

      Generally speaking, the elevators on ships are much more crowded than in buildings so perhaps that is the cause of some of the above complaints.

      I can say this, however, about Med travel. We were on the MSC Splendida on a spring trip a couple of years ago. The ship was filled with East Germans. These folks would not even wait for you to get off the elevator, but would put on a blitz rush and physically push you with their arms. Even the French thought they were rude and the West Germans kept saying they were not Germans, but really Russians at heart. They would also not tolerate anyone in front of the car not moving quickly if it was there stop and would shout at them in German in very contemptuous manner. Culture means a lot. Generally I like Germans, but these were Huns trained by the Bolsheviks.

      Latin American guests seldom que up either.

      We were also on a Norwegian cruise where my wife fell and broke her leg. She was in a wheel chair or on crutches. The only rude person we found was the ships doctor and the customer service staff who had to deal with this inconvenience. The cabin attendants were exactly the opposite. The PAX were all polite and helpful.

    89. Dom
      December 7th, 2011 @ 5:08 pm

      I walk with a cane – I can’t stand for too long without my legs starting to hurt very badly. So I have a bit of a different view on some of the things people are saying:

      1) If someone – anyone in any condition – is in the elevator lobby before me, I let them get on first, unless they’re across the lobby waiting in fornt of another elevator and the one right in front of me opens.

      2) If someone with a wheelchair is waiting more or les the same time as I am, I will have no problem getting on first – I am standing and in pain, and they are seated.

      3) As I said, I can’t stand for too long, so when I see an elevator that’s half full, but people are not moved to the back and allowing people to get on, I say something, or just get on and more or less compel others to move back. If you’re that claustrophobic, use the stairs if you can.

      4) My only real pet peeve with the elevators is people who ignore your request to ‘hold the elevator please’ when you’re just a few steps behind them and there’s plenty of room.

    90. HMC
      December 7th, 2011 @ 5:09 pm

      I’m an Australian and I like to cruise and have been on quite a few in the south pacific and overseas.

      I too like a bargain – who doesn’t? But that doesn’t make me a low-life -it6 makes me smart so I can spend my hard earned dollars on something else … perhaps another cruise !

      I was brought up to say please, thank you and excuse me / excuse me please.

      So why is it when I’m in an elevator on a ship, inevitably someone steps in and barks “11″ or some other number? No “excuse me please, would you kindly push 11 for me” or not even “please push 11 for me”.

      I’m not there in the elevator for someone to be rude to me because they are too lazy or don’t want to touch a button.

      I’ve put up with this behaviour many times, but no more … push your own buttons and treat people with respect and use some manners please !

    91. rusty
      December 7th, 2011 @ 5:11 pm

      I have a personal policy when I cruise, and it’s more for insuring my own health than anything: I NEVER use an elevator. Even if my cabin is on deck 5 and most of the action – including the morning breakfast cafeteria – are on deck 11, I hike all the way up and back down. Often I find myself getting to the top of the ship before those taking elevators, and I avoid the wait and the rush to ride. At the end of the cruise I feel much better for having gotten the additional exercise. After all, those rich meals don’t burn off by riding the elevators.

    92. Greg
      December 7th, 2011 @ 5:13 pm

      I am totally amazed at the vindictive and judgmental comments about others here. I have been on 11 cruises and can’t remember any instance of someone being rude on an elevator. But then I don’t focus on bad memories. Every experience I have had in a ship’s elevator has been either fun, pleasant, polite or at worst neutral, except the time a woman broke wind just before her floor; that was a laugh. We all make mistakes and and lose situational awareness sometimes. Just let it go and enjoy your cruise…for crying out loud.

    93. Emma
      December 7th, 2011 @ 5:17 pm

      I was pregnant in one of the cruises I’ve been into and yes, I get so upset when a foreigner does not let a pregnant lady with a baby bump showing, in the elevator first. I was infront of the line!!! And it also happened alot on land when waiting for a bus at one of the Disney World resort. I had to stand and hold on to the bar and pray that the bus gently presses down on the brakes, while a family( mom, dad, a toddler & a son looks like 7 or 9year old) stares at me. Stupid dad, couldn’t even show a good example of courtesy to his son by giving up his seat to a prego!! It just shows that most people does not know what courtesy is.
      By the way, someone mentioned lowlife-wow that’s really harsh!! I hope you meant bad mannered people.

    94. Mary
      December 7th, 2011 @ 5:18 pm

      I have to say the elevators were the most stressful part of our day, especially at dinner times. I use a power chair & people would actually push in front of us in order to get on first even though we had been there waiting for quite some time. One night I had been sitting there 15 minutes quietly watching people shove in front of me to get on. I finally said that I had been there for so long & I was getting on the next elevator. I found that the elevators at the front or rear are the easiest & least used, but it gets difficult getting through the hallways when the cleaning carts are out which seems to be almost all day long. The hallways are about 1/2 an inch too narrow to get through with the carts. Of course I brought all of this up to the cruise line & we shall see if they have made any changes when we go next time. We will try to avoid the midship elevators during peak times, but it is not always possible.

    95. Richard H
      December 7th, 2011 @ 5:20 pm

      I too fall in the category of “looking healthy but being healthy”, so I am familiar with elevators. I remember that the Island Princess was configured so that an elevator may not get you to the floor you want. It required going down one floor and then going to midship and down the main elevators to disembark.

    96. PARROT MOM
      December 7th, 2011 @ 5:21 pm

      For several years my husband used a rollator and on cruise ships and using the elevator especially after a show was a mad scene. I often wonder if an elevator at certain times could be dedicated to the blind, wheelchairs, those with canes, walkers and rollators for a short time. You notice I’m not even mentioning the rude pushing in the hallways or the baby strollers bumping into you whether handicapped or not

    97. Rick
      December 7th, 2011 @ 5:21 pm

      I’ve been on 19 cruises and will be going on my 20th in March. I have never ever had a problem with the elevators on any ship I’ve been on, on any cruise line. The worst thing I encountered on an elevator was someone farting.

    98. Richard H
      December 7th, 2011 @ 5:22 pm

      My previous comment should have said “not being healthy”…

    99. Louise
      December 7th, 2011 @ 5:50 pm

      We have been on 25 cruises and this subject is the one I really want to rant about. We are in our late 60s but take the stairs as much as possible. However, when we do not feel up to it, we will sometimes wait for 3-4 elevators to get one that is empty. When we do get on an elevator, and someone is looking to get off, we step out and let them out. It seems that is when people waiting think they should just push their way in. We are not pushy people but we do make an effort to prevent these people from getting on until those in the elevator get off and then WE get back on. We have been snarled at but don’t care. They either learn the \rules\ or take the stairs.

    100. Lijen5
      December 7th, 2011 @ 5:52 pm

      We were recently on the Westerdam for 34 days. There were lots of rude folks on elevators, but I think they are just like that, elevators have nothing to do with it.
      The thing that irked us the most is the folks who drench themselves in perfume/after shave and then get on the elevator. Sometimes you just can’t breathe!
      My favorite is the people who come and push the button after you have been standing there. The lights are on that the call button has been pushed but they think it will get there faster if they push it again.

    101. Em
      December 7th, 2011 @ 5:54 pm

      Take a small ship. You will not have any of the above problems.

    102. Di
      December 7th, 2011 @ 5:56 pm

      I sometimes think rude behavior occurs because no one knows you and you most likely will not see these people again. Same scenario at the grocery store, Walmart, etc. People who are courteous also use those manners on vacation. It is shame there are only a handful of kind people in this world. Shame on the rest of you!

    103. Tom
      December 7th, 2011 @ 5:58 pm

      It isn’t just elevator etiquette. There seems to have been a decline in civility in general over time. Other examples include people not dressing appropriately for meals, not supervising children, and saving seats (often many) at events of entertainment or at the pool. Of course, the cruise ships also share some of the blame when they refuse to enforce rules.

    104. Jay Jay
      December 7th, 2011 @ 6:08 pm

      Although I have encountered some of the problems mentioned above, I am going to give a compliment to a large number of folks who cruise with Royal Caribbean. In general, on the several cruises I have taken, people are usually courteous at the elevators (there ARE exceptions, of course). There have been times when someone, out of courtesy, will open the door again because they had seen someone rushing to get on but the door had closed. And I have never seen anyone get in front of a person in a wheelchair. However, on another line, which will be nameless, there were quite a few children on board and almost every time the elevator stopped and there were kids to get on, they ALMOST KNOCKED OVER the people who were trying to get off. They never waited for people to get off the elevator. Their behavior was no better in other instances (pool and hot tub in particular), which indicated to me that many of these cruising parents were not teaching their kids manners so in the future, when these kids are adults they won’t pass on what they have not been taught.

    105. Barbara
      December 7th, 2011 @ 6:08 pm

      I use a mobility scooter when cruising. I can walk, but it causes harsh pain-no way I could walk a ship let alone stairs. we just returned from our 3rd cruise, this time on Celebrity. I had only 2 upsets with the elevators. The one was upsetting though all the rest of the passengers agreed it wasn’t my doing. My husband stands at the elevator door and lets people know I am backing out. A man holding 2 hot cups of coffee RAN past him full tilt, ignored him telling him stop. he smacked right into me as he tried to catch the elevator. the coffee spilled down him rather than over me. the other episode was a older couple (I’m 61 so older yet!)literally jumped in front of my scooter to get onto the elevator. I said “glad I could push the button to get your elevator” and smiled. they’re creeps, and I can wait for another elevator-I’m sitting! What I have come to realize is there are some folks who are entitled and agressive but also many who do NOT “see” the scooter since it’s below their regular line of sight. They don’t auto-respond to a nearby person since you’re not on the radar. To get a true perspective on the craziness of people and scooters check a Disneyworld discussion. People drag toddlers directly in your path, when you line up in the handicapped area to watch a parade they stand in front of you anyway, and tend stop dead one inch in front-you smack their ankles. After a while you feel like a Corgi dog..their motto is Death Below The Ankles.

    106. Marcy
      December 7th, 2011 @ 6:10 pm

      I take the stairs any time I can because it helps me prevent weight gain. It also is the fastest mode when I am not in high heels or long dresses. We were just on the Golden Princess and found an unusually large number of mobily challenged people who had to wait for elevator after elevator to finally get on. The flow on that ship when getting to certain dining rooms and entertainment venues is horrid. It seems that the promenade deck is the only floor that goes all the way through the . Also, one must use the stairs or the two end elevators aft to get down one floor to dinner. Those big winged displays in the photo shop take up half of the walkway on top of everything else. Evening \commutes\ are horrible! I did notice that the ship finally restricted the elevators that went down to dinner for \Wheel chair and walker use only\ – Big problem, what about people who are just wobbily? Seems like someone fell almost every day. If you are able, use the stairs. It’s only one flight many times. Others, if you are in your 60′s or older and still don’t know that \committee meetings\ should not be held at the bottom or tops of staircases, in front of elevators, or in walkways, then no one is going to fix you now. The mantra in all places where crowds of people are attempting to move and/or live together should just be \try a little consideration\.

    107. vanessa
      December 7th, 2011 @ 6:11 pm

      Wow…some folks here are just really self-centered and rude. Relax! Quit judging people by their “looks”. I use the stairs when my knee allows it. I always try to apply the one floor rule, but after a long day of walking, I will take the elevator one floor at a time if I so please. My one and only issue is those who cram on while folks are trying to get off. It however, will not ruin my cruise. Happy Cruising to all!

    108. Lynn
      December 7th, 2011 @ 6:11 pm

      This is an interesting topic..just back from 11 days on the Zuiderdam..never could remember which elevator to take so walked several kilometers every day.. which kept weight in check ..elevators are a great place to have a friendly hello with strangers…the only time there was a rush and full elevators was coming back from shore trips, but they had two going so it wasn’t bad. I can’t understand why some people even think about why others are on the elevator…or pass judgement …we were just happy when the elevator came…..

    109. Da Mama
      December 7th, 2011 @ 6:13 pm

      Really, the time one spends on an elevator on a cruise is all of, maybe, 1% of your time. Don’t let it ruin the rest of your trip.

    110. Wyn
      December 7th, 2011 @ 6:17 pm

      Unfortunately, there is definitely a decline in civility and etiquette. On my last cruise I couldn’t tell you how often passengers were ready to jump on the elevator before others got off. Others try to squeeze in when there is obviously no room. My suggestion is if you are physically able, take the stairs and leave the elevators to the uncouth.

    111. MK
      December 7th, 2011 @ 6:26 pm

      I just finished my 32nd cruise and it does seem that people were ruder than usual. I have always just blamed it on the lowering standards of the “younger generations”. I am 59 and love to travel with people in their 70′s and 80′s if for no other reason than that they have great life experiences to share and are usually “raised better” as my 82 year old mom used to say. It seems that on this particular ship, they were older and grumpier and ruder. I actually had a man who did not speak English well slam the elevator door on me because he got on an elevator going up and wanted to go down. He kept punching the “close door” button! This was not a “low priced cruise line” and hardly anyone was a first timer. It is the nature of the beast and I have decided that bigger ships and two week cruises are no longer my choice. Mass merchandising and true affordability of cruises has drawn the crowds and therefore crowd behavior follows. I find the same thing in train stations, airports, and any place where people assemble. I have a conspiracy theory that messaging, cell phones and email has conditioned us to forget to talk to people or that other people even exist outside of the great ethernet.

    112. Fran
      December 7th, 2011 @ 6:27 pm

      It seems to depend a lot upon my mood — if I am in a good mood, people are gracious and kind; if I’m in a bad mood, people keep getting in my way. Well, what do you know — the kinder I am to other people, the kinder they are to me!

    113. MichaelM
      December 7th, 2011 @ 6:39 pm

      No one has mentioned all those who after 3-5 days of the cruise crowd on an elevator which is going down to go up – or the reverse. Thereafter, the elevators are not efficient for the rest of the cruise. Such people should be identified and banned from the elevators!

    114. Steph
      December 7th, 2011 @ 6:51 pm

      I’m surprised that people get mad over the smallest things. Yes there are rude people in this world, we just have to live with it. It’s silly to get worked up over it when we paid so much for a relaxing vacation… Stay positive!

      My worst experience was actually walking into an elevator to find that someone had PEED in there and it smelled so bad… It must have been a prank or someone was just too drunk. I’ve also seen plates of half-eaten food left on the floor in the elevators. I just laughed about these things and enjoyed my cruise anyway.

    115. Andrew
      December 7th, 2011 @ 7:11 pm

      The very worst elevator behavior during disembarkment when all of the above egregious behavior is on display in spades!

      I hate people rushing on the elevator when people are trying to leave. This happens everywhere, not just on cruises. I usually try and block people doing this when I am trying to get off, hopefully in a way that embarrasses them so they won’t do it again.

      Here is a different health tip: I try and avoid touching the elevator buttons with my fingertips, one way to do this is to use your knuckles.

      People eating on elevators is also obnoxious, and also people smoking (which is often encountered when travelling in foreign countries).

      Also, why can’t parents supervise and/or control their kids and instill proper etiquette (and not just on elevators)?

      I appreciate the point about disabled people not always being visibly obvious. I have a serious vestibular disorder but don’t always use my cane/walking aids. It is also can be embarrassing as my ataxia makes it look like I’m drunk when I’m not, and I occasionally get some snide comments and looks.

      One person here complained about mobility issues when wearing 5″ heels… While wearing heels is a normal way of dressing, especially for formal occasions, taking this to extremes where it seriously impacts your mobility and interactions with others is a somewhat self-absorbed attitude.

    116. Barbara
      December 7th, 2011 @ 7:16 pm

      On a recent cruise (3 weeks ago), I decided to use the stairs because we were ONLY going up to the next deck. While my friend is fairly able bodied, I use a cane and had to rely on the railing and cane to traverse these steps, 1 flight at a time! As I approached the top of the staircase, a group of women were standing there, cheering me on, come on, you can do it, sort of thing. AND I DID!!! Going down is one thing, going UP, quite another!
      Same cruise, we wanted to go to the buffet for lunch and waited for the elevator. When it arrived, there were 2 LARGE men on each side of the elevator, which was about 3/4ths full. Instead of moving, they stayed put and I tripped over the fat guy on the right and landed in his stomach, NO LIE!! My friend and I did everything we could not to laugh, but we sure had a good one afterward!!

    117. Mark
      December 7th, 2011 @ 7:43 pm

      We had two individuals wedge their way onto the elevator and of course the weight alarm went off. They refused to get back off and there we sat. I have to agree with the people complaining about people standing right in front of the elevator. We would stand a bit back or to oneside waiting and only have 6 or 7 seven step in front of us to use the elevator and then it was difficult for others to get off. I feel sorry for those in wheelchairs and they should be given every opportunity to use the elevators however the advent of the scooters leave little room for anyone but the scooter. Not only on elevators but I have seen people cut line and force they weight in all manner of ways. Very rude.

    118. Mari Anne
      December 7th, 2011 @ 7:58 pm

      We don’t take elevators. It is our way of keeping a little fitter while dining out everyday.

    119. Inez M. Allard
      December 7th, 2011 @ 8:14 pm

      I found that the rudeness stopped when we said something. A couple with a wheel chair were almost butted out of line until I spoke up. People fell back and let them board. Same with those who don’t wait for you to get off, Siply stated that they will not get on until you get off. Worked every time.

    120. Joe King
      December 7th, 2011 @ 8:18 pm

      Idiots do not stop being idiots just because they are on a cruise ship. Rude grouchy people do not stop being rude and grouchy either.

    121. JohnC
      December 7th, 2011 @ 8:30 pm

      I cruise to relax. If I let the actions of others get to me, I don’t relax. Patience is a virtue.
      I once asked someone who was on his 42nd cruise “which was the best?”. He replied, “This one”. I asked why? He said “Each cruise is what you make it – I choose to make it the best!” Well said.

    122. Kimberly Lord
      December 7th, 2011 @ 8:55 pm

      Who knew?! Seriously.

      I must give huge kudos to Holland America. We just got off 14 days on the Nieuw Amsterdam and never once experienced and issues with either passengers or elevators. We were aft on 7 and used the stairs for Lido and most 2 floor transfers, but spent a good bit of time on the elevators with other pleasant and well-mannered passengers.

    123. Charisse
      December 7th, 2011 @ 9:02 pm

      I’ve been in the elevator when it wouldn’t move because there was too much weight. No one moves, each wants someone else to get off. After the elevator that fell in NYC, I will get off even if I was the first on. Guess everyone is in a hurry to get to the FOOD!!!

    124. Catherine
      December 7th, 2011 @ 9:13 pm

      I’ve cruised for the last 20 years on four different cruise lines. My journals are full of the wonderful people I have met from so many different countries. Why in the world would I want to waste precious brain space on the few people who have been rude?

      Right now, my finances will not allow a cruise, but I am still reliving all of the trips I took in the past. When I think of each one, I smile so big that it helps to deal with some of the current issues that I must handle. I’m so grateful that I had the opportunities that I had!

    125. louis chouinard
      December 7th, 2011 @ 9:15 pm

      Don’t take the elevator , take the stairs and see the beautifull art hangning on the wall that on most ships , and when your on a cruise what’s the rush where are you going to go when your’re at sea

    126. SHARON MCCOY
      December 7th, 2011 @ 9:55 pm

      I FIND THAT MANNERS ARE LACKING WITH THE LACK OF CLASS (NOT MONEY) OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ATTRACTED TO CERTAIN CRUISE LINES. I HAVE LEARNED TO STAY CLEAR OF THOSE LINES AND I HAVE BEEN HAPPY CRUISING EVER SINCE. IT CERTAINLY IS NOT ONLY ON ELEVATORS THAT LACK OF MANNERS IS APPARENT. I FIND IT AGGRAVATING IN ALL ASPECTS OF A CRUISE AND STAY CLEAR OF THOSE WHICH ATTRACT THESE TYPES.

    127. Kathy
      December 7th, 2011 @ 10:35 pm

      Before my husband died last year, he and I liked cruising because it allowed us to get on board, unpack, and then just relax. We didn’t seem to run into a lot of problems like I’m reading about. We’ve cruised on several different cruise lines but none left us frustrated nor unhappy. I guess we were just having too much fun meeting new people and enjoying the experience. My husband wasn’t always able to walk the stairs so we used the elevators sometimes. If the cars were full, we waited for another one (sometimes we waited a while). This was no different from the times we vacationed in hotels and used the elevators there. I’m sorry so many of you are unhappy with cruising but that might mean more of you will be staying home and the elevators won’t be so crowded. I want to take another cruise someday and I’m hoping to meet some of you who truely enjoy your vacations.

    128. Fran
      December 7th, 2011 @ 10:51 pm

      1.Speaking of wheelchairs on the small elevators, why is it that they are parked dead center in the elevator. They can be moved to the side to let others (equally handicapped or not) get on? And amazingly, the person in the chair will growl “There’s no room in here for you!” Handicapped people sometimes have a sense of entitlement too. 2. Why can’t someone hold the button to let someone who is so close to the elevator get on? 3. Also, I agree, learn that pressing the button before a door has closed is so damn stupid that I wonder where these people were living (under a rock perhaps?) 4. Move to the back at a stop. Dont expect people to climb over you to get in the elevator. 5. Let people exit the elevator before barging in. ** Manners? They are non existent.

    129. Janell
      December 7th, 2011 @ 11:23 pm

      I think manners in general have disappeared. People pushing into anelevator before letting people out is bad.

      It’s also terrible when they
      people almost won’t let you out in almost as bad.

      Last year on the Norwegian Spirit, we saw a couple making out in the elevator. It was something to remember.

    130. Rusty
      December 8th, 2011 @ 1:59 am

      I agree wholeheartedly with Frequent Cruiser! I wonder how many times the ton restriction on the elevator is tipping the scales.

    131. Susan Ward
      December 8th, 2011 @ 2:13 am

      I’ve been on 4 or 5 cruises and I must say the elevator issue must have not been a problem as I don’t even remember it. For me I go into a state of “I don’t have to grocery shop, meal plan, cook or clean up”. I have found my nirvana. Not once on a cruise will I hear, “What’s for dinner?” If I have to wait for an elevator it is really only a matter of seconds before another one comes. People might be a little oblivious because they are chasing their own good time. It is like tourists crossing the streets aimlessly and not clueing in to the traffic. They are on vacation and forget common sense some times. I love cruising so I have nothing bad to add.

    132. mary wilson
      December 8th, 2011 @ 3:45 am

      Well, I’ve read all 126 comments, and have to agree with some, think some are rude in themselves, specially as I can cruise more often by buying the very best earlybird, right down on the lowest deck cabin, oceanview, but have had interior, and I certainly don’t regard myself as a lowlife – quite the contrary. I’m just back from a Pacific cruise on Rhapsody of the Seas, my third time on this lovely ship. Went on this same cruise, same date last year, with my grand-daughter, aged 22. I found an incredible change in only only one short year – mostly relating to consideration for fellow passengers, and just plain good manners. The demographic was a much younger group, lots more children, and teenagers. Didn’t have any problems, but couldn’t help noticing people pushing into lifts without assessing whether there were people coming out, walking through heavy doors without checking anyone coming after them, and found it all a bit sad.
      As a previous writer noted — where’s the rush???? The staff as ever were so courteous and friendly, the ship still beautiful and the dining room just lovely. All the time in the world to dress up and enjoy a leisurely dinner but I guess its just the stressed world we live in – been travelling on ships since 1956 and have loved every one – I guess everyone deserves to have the holiday they want, but not at the expense of fellow travellers’ comfort surely. And a smile always helps!

    133. Jim
      December 8th, 2011 @ 7:37 am

      Honestly, I believe that a lot of this is culture and upbringing. Even though I understand and accept that people should let those getting off precede those getting on (it makes sense, people! There’s more room for you if you let them off first!), I suppose that it was something I was taught as a youngster riding the train. I suppose that this courtesy isn’t common sense to those without subways or elevators in their walk of life. To this end, a simple placard would probably be appropriate.

      However, for the issue of cutting in line, I suppose there is a very different mindset involved. In this case, I would presume the “low life” bargain hunters are not the ones to blame, but rather, perhaps, the more elite who don’t seem to have that regard to being humble.

    134. Bob
      December 8th, 2011 @ 8:28 am

      Although I had an accident several years ago resulting in moderate mobility impairment, my family and I follow a simple rule; use the stairs 3-up or 6-down. If our destination deck is more than 3 decks up, or more than 6 decks down, we take the elevator; otherwise we take the stairs. However, on the rare occasion we do require an elevator, my pet peeve is getting on just after someone (usually an unsupervised child) has pressed the buttons for each and every deck.

    135. Lynn
      December 8th, 2011 @ 9:56 am

      Geez – I must be traveling in the right circle (or go with a positive attitude). Last sailing (May, 2011)was on the new Disney Dream where people were incredibly friendly, kind, and curtious. Even frazzled parents traveling with very young children were wonderful — and that includes at the elevators.

    136. Barb
      December 8th, 2011 @ 10:40 am

      I am in a scooter and as one respondent posted it is not easy. I have to back out, my husband trys to clear the way but there is always the person who will not move for fear of losing this last ride to where ever even tho my husband is HOLDING THE DOOR. I did actually end up backing into one that would not move.

    137. Alan
      December 8th, 2011 @ 10:45 am

      Elevators seem to be a magnet for bad behavior. I see too many instances of key scratched stainless steel doors, and glass with diamond ring etchings.

      I am sure the real underlying issue is teenagers up after hours and getting wild.

      More security is in order to keep them under control.

    138. Lee
      December 8th, 2011 @ 11:16 am

      This is not about what people who take the elevators look like it is about behavior. Pushing, rushing, rude comments, etc. There should be signs outside the elevators encouraging good behavior!
      My main gripe is the PERFUME and AFTERSHAVE and HAIRSPRAY and LOTIONS that choke people with any breathing issues and those who don’t have them–in tight quarters like an elevator these scents remain for a while..People think if a little is good–more is BETTER!
      I sense people judging others by how they look and can’t always tell when someone is unable to use stairs..but after reading on CC negative comments about others dress–it scares me. Someone commented on how some people’s luggage didn’t arrive for a few days and had to wear the same thing..and some cruisers thought they should be banned from dining room! Nice!

    139. bg mcqueen
      December 8th, 2011 @ 11:39 am

      how is it anyones business if i ride one floor or 9? this has nothing to do with being polite…when people are rude, elevator or anywhere else on the ship (buffet), they get back what they give…simple as that, a sorry fact of life i had to teach my child at disney!

    140. jim
      December 8th, 2011 @ 12:37 pm

      I am reminded of the story of a man sitting at the city gates who was asked by a visitor, “What are the people in this city like?”. He responded, “What were they like where you came from?”

      The rest of the story is a parable that shows what we see in others is pretty much a reflection of who we are. Or, as a group I hang with likes to say, “If you spot it, you got it.”

    141. Brian
      December 8th, 2011 @ 1:51 pm

      I am surprised at the number of people who don’t even seem to know how an elevator works! A lot of times I will see people come up and push both (up and down) buttons. Of course, the elevator that was now coming for us to do down, suddenly arrives to go up, never to be seen again.

      At least when the people butt in ahead of us and get on an elevator going the wrong way because they didn’t look at the lights indicating which way it was going, we can have a private chuckle when the elevator we were waiting for arrives and takes us on our way.

    142. imhappy01
      December 8th, 2011 @ 4:53 pm

      I can’t believe all this talk over walking the stairs or riding the elevator, who cares it’s an individuals choice. Rudeness is another though! My peeve, the kids joy riding when people are trying to get to dinner or when the show is letting out or in general just tying up the elevators. Me, sometimes I walk, sometimes I take the elevator, depends on where i’m going, how I feel,what shoes I have on but regarless it’s my choice as to ride or walk,it’s neither right nor wrong just a choice. Happiness is a choice!!!

    143. harris
      December 8th, 2011 @ 5:37 pm

      As a scooter person because if have trouble walking,it is always very interestingusing an elevator,Usually most people are nice enough,Then you have some that are just plain stupid and rude,Like this is the last elevator leaving the ship.Being on the Freedom of the Seas July was the worse,Children,just running wild and all very rude.Riding the elevators,just like it was a ride for fun.Hitting every button and then not even getting on the elevator.It was always a very interesting time to go from one florr to the next.And trying as best i could not to run anyone of them over.I will never take a cruise during a school break,Most parents seem to feel that the ship is where they stop being parents and the kids are on their own.No place to be if you need a scooter to get around

    144. Virginia
      December 8th, 2011 @ 7:36 pm

      OH MY WORD! Life is truly what you make it. Although, the design of the ship helps create certain atmospheres. We went on Disney, and all the hallways and elevators were tiny. So, there were more grumbling people in general. Then, on Carnival, the hallways were SO WIDE, and I did not run into one grumpy person the whole time! Not one! On a serious note, maybe the world, in general, is mimicked on a cruise ship. Like those in the upper floors being snooty, and those on the bottom floors being trashy… HAHA! Just kidding. There is good and bad in every person. You are only responsible for your own behavior, and will waste a lot of emotional energy worrying about others’ actions. Cruising is a lot more fun, if you just find some forgiveness in your heart <3

    145. loriel
      December 8th, 2011 @ 7:57 pm

      Once a year, my husband and I do the Boston to Bermuda itinerary. So far, we have had three wonderful cruises, and another planned for late summer next year. My husband is one of the “walking disabled.” His knees are damaged, due to an injury that occurred when he was serving in the armed forces. He can barely climb one flight of stairs in an emergency, and has to deal with the embarrassment of appearing “abled” when he is in fact “disabled.” We have seen instances of every form of inconsiderate behavior listed here by other posters, and have at times been on the receiving end of dirty looks and snide comments ourselves when taking the elevator for only one or two floors. When going about on the ship by myself, I will take the stairs for four flights or less up or down, but I will not leave my husband and take the stairs when we are going about the ship together. I’ve learned to not care so much what others think of this, as we go on a cruise to spend time together. When we are on a cruise we are happy to be cruising, and we try to plan our day somewhat so that we never feel we are rushing somewhere. As such, we never feel we have to push anyone out of the way to get where we are going.

    146. Txcruiser9999
      December 8th, 2011 @ 10:26 pm

      The rare times I have had a group barge in first before I could exit my floor, I have patiently waited for them to all enter, while holding the \Open Door\ button. I continue to hold it for a while, until they look, and then casually exit… Hopefully without words they will learn that they are just delaying themselves. I only do this when innocent others are not also delayed.

    147. Susan
      December 9th, 2011 @ 9:18 am

      I don’t think that this is true only on cruise ships. We spent a week at a higher class hotel in Las Vegas in October and the same ignorance was observered. People do not seem to teach their children basic manners any more (in any financial bracket)!

    148. Melissa
      December 9th, 2011 @ 10:21 am

      We took a cruise on Celebrity Eclipse in March and didn’t have any issues with the elevators at all. We did the stairs most of the time (in an effort to work off the excessive calories we consumed :) ) however, when we did do the elevators – like when I wore high heels, we were able to get on one without any trouble. That being said…we have taken several cruises on Royal Caribbean, and the elevator situation was awful. We HAD to do the stairs because you could never get an elevator. It was over-packed with people and there was much cutting ahead of others and general rudeness. I agree with whoever it was that said people can’t stand the wait, they are afraid to miss something…another burger??

    149. Curt Kozer
      December 9th, 2011 @ 10:30 am

      It is very easy. People, in most cases, feel like they need to be going places at the last minute. Plan and go earlier and you will be surprised at how much elevator problems diminish.

    150. highbury3
      December 9th, 2011 @ 12:17 pm

      I am certainly not oblivious to the current state of manners but after 8 crossings on the QM2 ( my only experience of large ship travel) I can honestly say that the behaviour of my fellow passengers is noticibly better than that of landlubbers.When did your theatre neighbour last say \good evening \ when you took you seat? How was your elevator experience in a crowded hotel or ,worse, department store? Maybe the passengers being more mature and the lack of harried parents with spoiled children has something to do with it.Politeness and curtesy still exist,at least to a great extent ,on the QM2.

    151. Mada
      December 9th, 2011 @ 1:50 pm

      I saw this one to many times ! People rushing past wheelchair for elevator. Last time I saw this I said REALLY people? Everyone one should get out that can walk stairs and let handicapped and elderly ride elevator. Needless to say everyone but an elderly couple got out and let wheelchair on. And all those people walked the stairs and then some. Speak up for these people! It’s not rude it’s common sense. Later saw the women in chair and she thanked me. Besides most those people needed the exercise! And just a note to say I never ride elevators on my cruises . For the reason I just noted. They should be for handicapped and elderly ONLY!

    152. Ginny
      December 9th, 2011 @ 3:05 pm

      How about the people on ‘hover rounds’ who insist on plowing their way onto already full elevators? Last year I had a foot operation 3 months prior to a long awaited cruise and almost had it re-broken buy a woman who could not judge where her vehicle ended and my leg began–She just kept pushing her way on even though almost everyone on the elevator told her that we did not have enough room.I ended up having to stand with one foot on her ‘hover-round’ because there wasn’t any place to put my other foot! I do feel sorry for people who need wheelchairs/scooters, but sometimes they must wait like the rest of us and be mindful how large their motorized contraptions really are.

    153. James
      December 9th, 2011 @ 6:01 pm

      We have encountered rude elevator behaviour on rare occasions. If we are waiting for the eleavtor and it is crowded, we wait for the next one, and if that is also crowded we wait for the next. We are in no rush when we take cruises – we are on a vacation, and we feel very lucky to be able to cruises as often as we do.

      We look for bargains on cruise prices, but that doesn’t mean we are trash or cheap. We are fiscally wise, and that allows us to cruise often.

      If we see that someone needs to use the elvator because they are in a wheelchair, for example, we may go to hold the doors open for them, but we won’t rush to get on in front of them. We also make a point of stepping aside to let people off.

      There are two things I dislike the most about elevators. I dislike when people boarding call out their deck/floor number for ME (or anyone else)to push for them. I am not an elevator operator. The other thing I dislike is when people push the call button (to call the elevator or to indicate a deck/floor) when it is already lit.

      When all is said and done, if it’s a few decks, we take the stairs; if it’s several, we wait for the elevator, and we try to avoid the crush hours.

    154. Linda
      December 9th, 2011 @ 6:34 pm

      I avoid elevators on cruise ships, even when hiking up from level 1 in port. The exercise is good, and in most cases I get there faster than the elevator. Since I travel with kids who do sports, they typically run up the stairs as cruises don’t mean stopping conditioning for the sports season. Since there are so many people waiting for elevators its never been a problem.

    155. Kate Hacking
      December 9th, 2011 @ 9:48 pm

      I agree; people are very rude when getting on elevators…. which an occurance simaler to this happened to us….we just looked at the rude intruder and turned away and took the stairs. I feel we are in better shape than a few other people whom were waiting, and rather than face a confrontation …. we just took to the stairs. We went up 4 floors and beat the elevator anyway. It was very gratifying!!!!

    156. Melanie
      December 9th, 2011 @ 11:21 pm

      My husband and I love cruising. We don’t usually use the elevators. Part of the fun is seeing which one of us can navigate the stairs and get to our destination first .(He usually wins.) We’ll continue doing this until we can’t any longer. On the rare occasion we take the elevator, it’s usually late at night. When we have run into other passengers,like us, most of them are just happy to be on the ship. We usually skip the elevators because they’re so slow anyway.

    157. LADELLE
      December 10th, 2011 @ 12:30 am

      I don’t understand why all you people are complaining! You are on a CRUISE for heavens sake. Some people have to save years to cruise, others, like myself can cruise as much as I like. That doesn’t make either of us better or worse than the other. We are all people and we should respect the differences each of us has. Kindness begets kindness. Rudeness may cause rudeness back to you. Remember where you are and how lucky you are able to be on that ship when others are homeless, living from paycheck to paycheck, or not having enough food for their children to eat. Shame on all of you for complaining. If you don’t like being around people, stay home!

    158. Tammy
      December 10th, 2011 @ 1:59 am

      My husband and I cruise 4 times a year. Since we always eat like crazy on cruises, we have a vow never to use the elevators if possible. We will even challenge our dinner table mates to do the same and most succeed. After 30+ cruises, I have only been on an elevator about 6 times. It isn’t easy to climb sometimes 10 flights of stairs a few times a day but it is rewarding knowing we can burn some of those calories. I recommend it if you are not physically disabled from doing so.

    159. midship2095
      December 10th, 2011 @ 8:34 am

      Crowding into the elevator and not letting anyone exit is the biggest problem I’ve seen.
      I also let the folks in wheelchairs or scooters go first, no matter how long I’ve been waiting.
      To the people complaining about others not using the stairs: I DO use the stairs quite often, but I have a knee injury and when I’m in pain, or it’s more than a few floors, I take the elevator.
      When people try to cram “a few more” onto the elevator, I do not back myself into a corner, I close the door and tell them another one will be along soon. Also, there should be some sort of reset button in the elevator when those unescorted kids push ALL the buttons. Good manners really do go a long way. I wish everyone would use them.

    160. heidi reyburn
      December 10th, 2011 @ 11:00 am

      Can’t find anything that causes me to …oh, I just remembered one…errr two! Saving seats at the buffet~! Don’t get cranky on me if I attempt to take one of the seats at your precious table for 8! I thought the cruise life was a wonderful way to meet people from around the world & share experiences. This habit really gets my ‘ole goat’! Young & old-er have alot in common actually! Travel, silly! You don’t have exclusive rights to anything aboard ship except your room – get with it & enjoy the cruise life! And don’t put that towel down on a chaise & expect to have that seat the entire day – even when you vacate to ‘the buffet’! Being rude does not become one~!

    161. christine
      December 10th, 2011 @ 11:08 am

      I think everyone needs to slow down. I guess my major peeve are the parents that let their children just run around and push every button for every floor on every elevator. I am in a wheelchair and one time waited about 10 min. because of this type of prank. Oh by the way Anne. I suggest you book the Balmoral suite on one of the Queens and leave the rest of us low life to our enjoyment of cruising.

    162. Jasmine
      December 10th, 2011 @ 2:50 pm

      The one rule I absolutely want enforced more is SMOKING NEAR and IN the elevator!! I have come across this on many occasions, usually by old people (ladies) or big tough guys smoking a cigar and looking like they don’t give a care. Usually if there’s more than one person they try to gang up on the smoker saying THE SIGN IS RIGHT THERE PUT IT OUT, but when I’m by myself I can’t say anything. I am not sure of how to get this LAW better enforces, but I really wish it was.

    163. traveler1062
      December 11th, 2011 @ 4:16 am

      I agree with Fran #128. The passengers in wheelchairs and scooters often seem to have an entitlement to have the elevators to themselves, often parking in the middle and not allowing others on and yes, then we all have to wait. The elevators should either be redesigned or made larger to accommodate these devices. The ships should also designate assisted need elevators for those who need it and leave the rest for anyone else. This would help speed things up for the restless. Also, after 30 cruises I’ve never seen enough elevators on ships. Just like freeways–never enough the capacity.

    164. Rebecca
      December 11th, 2011 @ 9:52 am

      Just returned from a cruise on Navigator and agree with the complaints I’ve read. One of my pet peeves is people (specifically a large pushy man and his wife) who insisted on crowding in to our already full elevator. The weight warning buzzer rang when he entered. Several people complained that they couldn’t move back any further and he just made some rude flippant remark.If an elevator appears crowded my husband and I always wait for the next one. What is it with people who like to be jammed up against one another? It happens in grocery, ATM and bank lines too. One of my college professors called it the “herding instinct.” Guess that one isn’t part of my DNA, thank goodness.

    165. Vera
      December 11th, 2011 @ 2:47 pm

      My husband is 49 years old and is in a wheel chair. I agree we sometimes have to wait for 5 or 6 elevators to stop before we could get on. I have no problem when the door opens and the elevators are already full. I have the problem when my husband and I have been there before many other people waiting and the elevator door opens and they all get on the elevator. What the hell do these people think we are doing there? People without disabilities should realize that one time in their life this will affect them or a loved one. This is also a problem all over not only on cruise ships. We just laugh at the rude people and eventually get to where we need to get. Life is too short, we need to enjoy every minute we can while we still can.

    166. BennoB66
      December 11th, 2011 @ 7:02 pm

      We recently cruised on the MSC Fantasia. There are 3400 passengers who spoke maybe 7 different languages and every time I got in the lift it was full. Not only that but the lift would be full and there would be passengers that would push in like it was the bullet train in Japan. The buzzer would go off as we were overloaded and then as we were going down the door would close and off we went. Well we would hit level 2 and then it would just not budge coming up and no one would get out. This would happen a lot and it was so annoying…also people would get in the lift just after they had been smoking and the smell was horrible.

    167. Gordon
      December 11th, 2011 @ 7:17 pm

      Try cruising with a wheelchair-bound person – hard to believe, but we have been pushed out of the way by “good hearted” people who need to get into the elevator first and have very annoyed “gentlefolk” upset when they have had to retreat from the lift (elevator) to allow us to exit!!

    168. Jeffrey
      December 11th, 2011 @ 7:18 pm

      Best “Welcome Aboard” show ever – a comedian who ended by asking if we can all agree to let people OFF the elevators before getting into them. Funny AND instructive!

    169. Sonya Sherow
      December 11th, 2011 @ 7:23 pm

      Truth be told it happens every day at work. You are trying to get off the elevator while folks are rushing on it. They don’t change just because they are on vacation. Take a deep breath and enjoy the rest of you trip. No matter what we all rather be cruising!

    170. neta platt
      December 11th, 2011 @ 7:29 pm

      I am one of the people on an electric scooter and it is sometimes worse than a wheelchair. I try to get to the very back of the elevator so other people will fit in and alot of times people don’t realize I am there and get angry because people won’t move back to make more room for people to get on (because they cannot see me) We have had major complaints because of that. Also when I am waiting to get on an elevator and other people run in front of me so I cannot get on. When I make a comment people get angry with me when all I did was call the person out for pushing by me. This is just rude. Also when I go fast when I see a elevator open to try and catch it people accuse me of being rude. What they don’t realize is that if I don’t get on that elevator I might be waiting for a few more before I can find one I fit on. Also, I like to go on backwards so I can get out safely and when people don’t give me the time to do that it is dangerous for me to back out safely and sometimes I get people ankles, not on purpose just because I cannot see behind me.

    171. Steven
      December 11th, 2011 @ 7:47 pm

      I do have a problem with people complaining about getting on an elevator only to go up one floor…ummm how about maybe someone has a mobility problem, or senior citizens, people with disabilities. These people have legit reasons for it. Its a persons choice to. I have no problem myself with someone doing this. Luckily though I am very patient, so really I don’t care as long as someone isn’t being rude to me.

    172. Brenda Marie
      December 11th, 2011 @ 8:05 pm

      I agree with those who say bad manners are everywhere, unfortunatey, not just on the cruise ships. It’s just plain ignorant for anyone to assume someone else is able bodied and should take the stairs. The stairs and the elevators are for whoever chooses to use them. If you want to and can walk up and down the stairs, good for you. And just so you know fluffy people pay to get on the cruise ships too, they do not get on free and therefore they can and will do whatever they want including riding the elevator.

    173. Gordon
      December 12th, 2011 @ 6:30 am

      On our recent cruise I did note some of the things stated here. More than once I held an elevator to let others get on especiall the disabled. Sometimes other riders glared at me for doing so. I have plantar faciitis and it means it can be very painful to walk and use stairs. It sort of feels like you have a tack in the heal of your foot. I still found it preferable to use the stais when going down since that is normally faster than the elevator. I also don’t mind going up stairs. I found it intersting that more than once while my wife and I were on the elevator people would get on an elevator going up and press buttons for floors below. They seem to then be cofused you are not getting to their desired floor. The other thing I experienced was people who get on and press one floor down, but when we get there and the door opens they just stand there. When I would say to them “We’re at your floor they would reply “I never pressed this floor.” almost indignantly. When they would get out the other passengers would comment that it was weird how they wouldn’t admit they press the floor even though everyone saw them. I guess people do not like to admit even the slightest mistake.

    174. M
      December 12th, 2011 @ 10:14 am

      Oh yeah – I get this a lot: I’m alone in the elevator (going from 5 to Lido, people!), someone gets on mid-trip and imperiously orders “12 please” like I’m the elevator operator. (OK, maybe this is just me – I also get asked to fill ‘er up at self-serve gas stations).

    175. John
      December 12th, 2011 @ 10:53 pm

      My goodness, people. It sounds like a lot of you need to find a cruise similar to the way folks are using dating services. Put in all your wants, needs, likes and dislikes and the service will match you up with your “perfect” cruise. I’m frankly ashamed of most of you. Take a few minutes to look up the word “ethnocentric”.
      Relax and have fun on your next cruise. There are much bigger problems to deal with when you get back.

    176. Carol
      December 13th, 2011 @ 11:37 am

      This particular problem almost made us quit cruising. Largest ship, many glass elevators.
      Full elevator, our noses up to the glass, doors open, 5 people try to push in, 2 succeed (with rear ends still sticking out), still pushing, doors won’t close, still pushing, not going anywhere. Someone yelled “no more”, a comment back – “who made you elevator operator?”

    177. Bee
      December 13th, 2011 @ 2:44 pm

      We just returned from our honeymoon cruise on Holland America. In 7 days, exploring every level of the ship, hustling through dinner rushes and disembark/embark at ports of call, we never had an issue with rude cruisers on any of the elevators. We were expecting it but were gratefully surprised. Just one more reason we booked another cruise with their line.

    178. shirley
      December 13th, 2011 @ 6:00 pm

      It isn’t just bad elevator eiquette. What iratates me more than anything is people who walk down a hall like they are waking down a hall the size of a football field and walk so slow and no one can get past them.
      Another one is the people in the buffet, boy are they rude. They stand in the middle of the road and don’t have the courtesy to move over to let you pass and just about them time you figured out how to pass them they irconically side step right in front of you. Thye stand there like a deer I head lights like they are the only ones on the ship.
      I have seen the tremendous decline in over all courtesy decline immensley just in 5 years.

    179. heather
      December 13th, 2011 @ 6:07 pm

      I doubt that anyone thinks they are “ethnocentric”. It is just out of frustration that people can’t stand rude people, no matter what class or income you are. No one likes rude people and that’s basically what we are talking about here John !!!!!

    180. Kate
      December 13th, 2011 @ 7:53 pm

      All of this cracks me up- it is obvious that all of the folks who are so upset about pushing and shoving have not been to any big entertainment events in the past several years. Go to a ball game, rock concert, heck even the movies and try to get out to the parking lot when everyone is pushing and shoving and in a hurry to leave. Elevators are no different than parking lots. Ever see someone in a hurry take a handicapped spot while someone with a tag is waiting for it? I had this happen in Beverly Hills. Rude behaviour is neither limited to cruise ships nor to people considered lowlife by some of the people here.

    181. Cheryl Lesage
      December 14th, 2011 @ 4:19 am

      In general, I don’t think this is as big a problem as some of you make it out to be. Some of you are so absolutely rude in your postings that it’s not a wonder you act so badly in public. I’ll wear a t shirt that says “my knees are shot” when you start wearing one saying “warning – i’m rude & obnoxious”.

    182. Andy Scott
      December 14th, 2011 @ 8:29 am

      The problem with elevators is, as you’ve read, you’re likely to get lots of ups and downs with them.

    183. Phil
      December 14th, 2011 @ 12:54 pm

      Forget etiquette, what about just plain idiotic… my favorite is when I have pushed the button and am waiting, and some ninny comes along and pushes the SAME button two or three times!! Do they think that makes the elevator come faster??

    184. Russ
      December 15th, 2011 @ 7:55 pm

      For some people, because of your comments about others, I hope I never have to share a cruise with you. Yes, manners may not be left at home, they may never have had the opportunity or requirement to learn and use them in the real world. It’s the ‘ME’ attitude and nothing, will change them, just like some of your comments towards others. Don’t comment about others until you have walked a mile in your shoes.

    185. Dave
      December 21st, 2011 @ 1:17 pm

      My wife and I think of the elevators, queues, and the dinner table as opportunities to demonstrate good manners to those who have never had the good fortune to learn and enjoy them. And, of course, arrogant remarks to them are not good manners.
      Also, we try to remind ourselves to be compassionate to struggling strangers and those from other cultures. We never know what issues the thoughtless person is dealing with. Perhaps his wife just confessed that she was cheating on him or she just got a message that her father died. Or perhaps this is the first venture out in such a formal public setting with the kids. (Have you every thought about why we refer to children as “kids.”) Perhaps a family’s aggressive behavior is the norm where they’re from. Looking with kindness on their transgressions actually keeps me relaxed and I enjoy myself so much more.

    186. Stephen C. Bishop
      December 21st, 2011 @ 4:54 pm

      I am bound in a scooter on a ship, I can walk about 20 feet between rest stops. I have never had a problem with elevators, except it seems that every time I am on the far left of the bank the right one opens every time and closes by the time I can roll over to get it. People are usually nice about holding it for me, and the folks who are arrogant enough to not do so can unfortunately get a foot rolled over by my scooter if I must rush. Sooner or later they learn–even the teenagers.

    187. Bathf1
      December 22nd, 2011 @ 8:00 pm

      I love the comment #14 by Barbara. I will definitely ask the question, “How are you enjoying the cruise?” to start my own pole. My wife (also named Barbara) and I love cruising and have enjoyed meeting people from near & far. I agree with the sentiment that cruise ships have a cross section of society, most are regular people that sometimes don’t think about the special circumstances they find themselves. They are really not rude.

    188. Kathie44
      December 24th, 2011 @ 11:31 am

      I’m amazed at how many complaints there are. The only time I have had a problem in an elevator was in June of ’06 when 3 young boys got on an elevator on Jewel of the Seas and pushed all the buttons at once. I gave them my sternest “Mom” look and they sheepishly got off at the next floor. I have had 12 cruises, 4 on RCI and 8 on X and that is the only time someone misbehaved. I’ve not experienced pushing, jumping line, or rudeness in or around an elevator. I do occasionally skip the steps if I’m having a bad knee day. Last summer on my Baltic cruise, sightseeing for 7 days mostly on cobblestones did a number on me and I took the elevator more than usual, but no one complained.

    189. Morris Schrock
      December 25th, 2011 @ 9:44 pm

      My wife & I nearly died laughing on a Holland/Amer. cruise to Alaska, when we were riding the elevators at a busy time of the morning. We got off at the buffet deck, and whilst we were trying to leave, a woman and a early-teen boy crowded in.My wife noted that the boy had his hand up to his mouth. Then came four small eastern ladies jabbering loudly amongst them selves, and when the door was closing, my wife saw the boy hurl into the corner. Soon, the door opened back up, and the jabbering was even louder as four ladies scurried as fast as their little legs could carry them to get away from the sick boy. It was hilarious as long as you were not trapped in that elevator with him!

    190. ann riner
      December 28th, 2011 @ 1:39 pm

      We just returned from an 8 night Christmas cruise on Mariner of the Sea. I had read this post prior to departure and took note of the situation on our ship. I was amazed by the polite behavior of adults and children. No on rushed on as people were trying to depart, and people in wheelchairs strollers, or with walkers were always allowed on first. Now, many at the buffet did not seems to understand which side of the room we walk on, but other than that, the politeness of most encouraged me.

    191. justin
      January 1st, 2012 @ 11:27 am

      A sense of humour goes a long away.

      waiting till all the rushers are on and then asking them to hold the door, as you STILL need to get off, is great.

      speaking to passengers is a great ice breaker, an excuse to introduce yourself.

      With HAL (1,800 passengers)we were on 10 cruise that had 300 bear crusiers (bears are fat hairy, bearded gay men) Slowly the non bears learned about all these bears on board, and realized as a group they were very polite, never dashed for the lift, pushed, such.

      My wife saw a short thin bear (with a rainbow pin) and asked “where is your big bear?” the responce “he is taking the stairs, as so many other passengers, need this lift, and he needs the exercise.

      Eventually having all this bears greet everyone so politly on the elevator’s seemed to lift everyone to a politer level

    192. Marianne
      April 13th, 2012 @ 2:22 pm

      We have recently had to resort to using scooters to get around our cruise. Although we may have been first to arrive in the elevator area, it’s amazing how others will push in front of us to use the elevator. On our cruise on carnival Magic in January, we waited for 11 cars before we were able to get on .(A normal day, not debarking or meal time) Finally, we got aggressive and “plowed” our way on…. I hated to do it, but if others see that handicapped people are waiting for an elevator and were there before you arrived, please let us on…the stairs are not easy to use in a scooter!
      happy cruising!

    193. Cruiser from Maryland
      June 29th, 2012 @ 4:49 pm

      I recently took a cruise on RCCL Enchantment of the Seas. I am still telling my friends about the elevators on this ship. It was only a 5 night cruise but I can honestly say, we only had to wait for an elevator twice. Every time the elevator door opened, there were only a few people on it or it was empty. We didn’t have an elevator rush the whole 6 days. Fabulous time! Going back on EOS in September. Hope it hasn’t changed!

    194. Denise Palmer
      October 4th, 2013 @ 4:24 pm

      I was thinking about going on a cruise, but I’d be in a wheelchair..after reading about all the hassle and the ridiculous people Im not going…I want to cry just reading about these people..these almost crippled people who need the elevator…well you’re walking around the ship with no problem…

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