# How Should You Behave on a Cruise Ship Balcony?

June 14, 2011 | By | 327 Comments

Letters, we get letters. We recently received a missive from B. Potter, which was addressed to Miss Cruise Manners but intercepted by our other Guru of Good Taste, Cruise Critic Editor-in-Chief Carolyn Spencer Brown, who’ll be handling the mail-opening duties henceforth.
So what did B. request? I’D LIKE YOU TO ADDRESS PROPER “BALCONY MANNERS. “NO FOUL LANGUAGE, NO “LOUD” VOICES AND DEFINITELY NO PERSONAL MUSIC. . . . THERE ARE DEFINITELY SOME VERY ANNOYING PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO HAVE NO REGARD FOR THE PLEASURE OF OTHERS.

It’s interesting that a complaint about manners – balcony or any other kind – comes via an all-caps email, an egregious breach in itself of netiquette. I GET IT — you’ve got a problem with balcony boors. I’ll offer this first piece of advice on your behalf to all and sundry who book a cabin with what cruise lines euphemistically call a “private verandah.” They are not private. Nor are they soundproof. Consider yourself warned.
Who are the worst offenders? Smokers top mine; on a recent cruise on Disney Magic, our next-door neighbors (who I could identify by their hacking, phlegmy coughs more than their faces) were chain smokers, and I was right in the line of their fire. The idea of going out on the balcony to get fresh air was laughable. The post-smoke hacking was even more disgusting. (Update: Carnival Cruise Lines, Princess Cruises and Holland America all announced changes to their smoking policies today. Princess is banning smoking in all cabins/balconies fleetwide on January 15, 2012. Carnival will ban smoking in all cabins effective December 1, and HAL will do likewise January 15 — though smokers on both lines can still light up on balconies).
Also annoying: If you like to sleep with a view of the stars, better hope that the folks on each side of you haven’t forgotten to turn out their outdoor lights; they’ll wash out the night sky. I’m not terribly fond of noisy eaters (that’s rare though) either.

Is it considered proper etiquette on embarkation day to peer into your neighbor’s balcony to say hello? No. But if you’re both hanging off the rail watching the ship depart, go ahead and say “Hey.”
Not so much an experience of mine, this may nevertheless resonate: A colleague tells me that his biggest beefs are “loudmouth drinkers and early-morning yappers. Don’t be surprised if they wake you up in the morning while they’re gabbing over coffee, slam the doors shut when you least expect it or sing along with their iPod while nursing a late-night cocktail and scraping chairs on the faux teak.” Well said.
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327 Responses to “How Should You Behave on a Cruise Ship Balcony?”

1. Marci
June 14th, 2011 @ 12:23 pm

I dont mind the music and voices before ten or eleven at night – its after we have gone to bed that its annoying. BUT MOSTLY – the smokers…

2. Christi
June 14th, 2011 @ 12:48 pm

I’m with you on the smokers. Paid big bucks to be on an extended balcony and got to spend maybe 5 minutes a day out there because of the noxious cigar fumes that permeated not only the balcony but our state room and the hallway outside of our room!!

3. Lori O
June 14th, 2011 @ 12:54 pm

Maybe I am in the minority here, but as a smoker I always strive to not let my addiction bother others. I have spoken to the people on both sides of my balcony and told them that I will not smoke if they are out there, and to please tell me if it bothering them (OK, I smoke Canadian cigs which do not have the same smell as those in the US). I think those smokers who have no regard for others don’t realize that they are doing themselves a disservice and soon smoking will be banned everywhere if they do not try to be more considerate.
That said, I wish that those who over perfume themselves would consider others too!

4. Andy Smithers
June 14th, 2011 @ 1:23 pm

Come on folks you are on vacation with 4000 people. If we were all the same it would be very boring. Some rise early some stay up late . I think of it this way, if you stay at Motel 6 (Carnival) you know who will be on board. If you stay at the Wyndham (Celebrity) you can expect a quiet respectable crowd. I say pick and choose your cruise based on something other than price and destination. Some common sense here please. Buy your own yacht is you want the perfect cruise. These cruise lines are here to make money from a lot of people. Relax its vacation.

5. JoelP
June 14th, 2011 @ 2:02 pm

Smokers period…..There are enough ships out there so I can’t understand why one cruise line would not make some of them totally non-smoking like the Large hotel chains have. I think they would actually see a higher profit from their casino as most non-smokers do not even walk through but if the air was smoke free I think it would be crowded! The balcony guests would enjoy the cruise more and the cost of cleaning the disgusting smoke filled rooms would go down.. (Any cruise lines listening???)

6. joni jones
June 14th, 2011 @ 2:31 pm

Andy… hard to relax when the people next door are smoking you off your balcony and into your cabin. Happens not only on Carnival but ditto for Celebrity, Princess and H.A.

7. David Oliver
June 14th, 2011 @ 3:04 pm

Early this day, I experience what will surely be the most embarrassing moment for me during this entire two-cruise adventure; and it ranks right up there as one of the most embarrassing moments of my life! The set-up: as previously indicated, we have a balcony stateroom, with full-length widows stretching across the cabin port-side wall. I decide to walk out on the balcony to take in the fresh breezes from the sea, and while leaning over the protective rail, decide to take a look around the stateroom balcony-divider to take a look at our neighbor’s quarters……BIG MISTAKE! There sitting on her bed in all her glory looking out her full-length widow is a beautiful blonde woman who, shocked upon seeing my face peer around the corner, covers up as quickly as possible and whose fear-stricken face tells all. I quickly withdraw behind the barrier and slide into our room and pull the curtains. I immediately want to tell her that I am not a pervert, a peeping-tom, or any other kind of kinky passenger. Maybe I can write her a note and leave it in her mailbox outside her cabin; but paralyzed I doubt if I will do any of these things. And worse, as next door neighbors, our paths will surely cross before the end of the cruise. What will I say, what will I do? Damn, this is downright embarrassing for sure, and I guess it tempers my earlier claim about the positives of aging……I am a little bit stressed, and now we will have to draw our curtains in fear of retaliation. Morale of the story, mind your own business.

8. ACruiseGuy
June 14th, 2011 @ 4:04 pm

Shut the balcony light at night….

9. T. Hobbs
June 14th, 2011 @ 4:35 pm

Everyone picks the cruise they want and if you do not know your options get a travel agent. There are non “smoking cruises”. For me it is the children/teens running up and down the halls, crowding the pool and hot tubs. So, I choose to cruise while school is in and go on longer cruises. As Americans we should be able to do anything that is, legal of course, without feeling like we are completely invading your space ie, (smoking). I have a problem with drinkers but, it’s legal. We can not just start telling people what they can and can not do. Options are there, even on smoking ships.

10. Andy Smithers
June 14th, 2011 @ 4:57 pm

I hope that the cruise lines will see the value of smoke free ships just like smoke free bars. They would have a lot more pleased customers and passengers that prefer a smoke free environment. Smokers would still need to be accommodated until then. Why piss off the majority of cruisers that don’t smoke by allowing it.

11. Lynn
June 14th, 2011 @ 6:06 pm

On our last cruise (our 16th), Princess Mexican Riviera, we had a very nice couple next to us who BOTH smoked more than should be possible and still breathe. We chatted with them, ran into them in the bar, etc. but every time I wanted to take a step outside, or opened the balcony door, I was greeted with billowing smoke. Obviously, DH and I are non smokers. It took so much away from the enjoyment of our cabin and balcony. Why can’t Princess (and/or other cruise lines) follow the lead of major hotel chains and at least have designated smoking cabins (maybe port side aft)… As noted above, the cost saved cleaning cabins from smoke debris and smell should be worth something, as well as the good will for us non-smokers …. That would be wonderful…

12. Holly
June 14th, 2011 @ 6:58 pm

Because of my asthma and (thankfully) the forums on cruise critic, we are saving our money and stick to inside cabins. Second hand smoke is truly something I cannot physically tolerate.

13. Kelly C
June 14th, 2011 @ 8:13 pm

Smoking – the worst! Which is why, more and more, I prefer Celebrity which doesn’t allow smoking on balconies. I would also agree with Lori O though, perfume can be pretty bad.

14. Clark
June 14th, 2011 @ 11:05 pm

Why don’t they ban smoking from ships? It’s not profitable!

From the cruisecritic article on smoking policies (http://www.cruisecritic.com/articles.cfm?ID=225) “Renaissance Cruises, an entirely non-smoking line, no longer exists. Carnival’s Paradise, which started life as a smoke-free vessel and stayed that way for six years, now allows smoking onboard. “

15. Bonnie B
June 15th, 2011 @ 6:22 am

As an early riser I seem to spend a lot of time “being quiet” because someone is trying to sleep. “shhh your neighbors are trying to sleep” WELL, guess what! I am trying to be awake! why should late sleepers have priority??
I am sure at 4 in the morning not one person talking & laughing with their friends all the way back to their cabin ever says……… “shhh your neighbors are trying to sleep”

16. Jo Holmes
June 15th, 2011 @ 6:40 am

P&O in Australia has no smoking anywhere inside, so the casino and all other public areas are smoke free. I’m not sure about balconies though as I haven’t stayed in a balcony cabin. There is a smoking area on the Lido deck and that’s the only public place for smokers.

17. Nancy R
June 15th, 2011 @ 6:41 am

Smoking should be left up to the individual. We cannot continue to dictate everyone’s rights based on our on belief. And no, I am not a smoker. If they are outside they should have no restrictions on smoking other than common courtesy. Don’t let your smoke go in other’s faces but if you must, please smoke. Are non drinkers telling drinkers they should not drink outside? Are non gamblers telling gamblers not to gamble? Courtesy goes both ways.

18. Mike L
June 15th, 2011 @ 7:00 am

Periodically I get the urge to try cruising. I read a few sites like this . . . and \get religion.\ I don’t think cruising is right for neighbor-phobic people (and I am one of them). even though I love the idea of sailing the high seas. I doubt it’ll happen.

It’s like people who let hotel doors slam shut time after time after time after time in the next room (usually all night long). It’s not so much the action itself, as how it evinces a total lack courtesy, intelligence, thoughtfulness . . . etc. etc. in the majority of folks. I don’t buy in to \relax, you’re on vacation\ because I can’t relax if disturbed by neighborign yah-hoos. I’m quite the opposite (keep my TV low and never let doors bang at 200am or any other time for that matter) but long ago got fed up with the lack of even a feeble attempt at reciprocity from 95% of my fellow man.

19. Katherine
June 15th, 2011 @ 7:42 am

Get over the smokers. We are everywhere. I can’t believe that on the open seas you can smell the smoke. What about the cruisers that fart in the elevators? Try throwing them overboard.

20. marc
June 15th, 2011 @ 7:45 am

Well i suggest to ya all book a NON- SMOKING cruise..there enough of them out there.They have there rights to..and i am a non smoker!! Hey ppl ya gonna have smoking,,, kids running the hall ways.. loud ppl.. drunks… GET OVER IT..ya got 3500 ppl. its vacation..letting loose..I cruise twice a yr, ships big enough to get away from noise or smokers…and i know if ppl next to ya rasing hell at late nite secuirty will quiet them just call.. ya do have a phone in ya cabin use it ..sheese.Maybe ya all should book a cruise with no smoking..no kids..liq free…Let loose and liv dayummmm

21. Amanda
June 15th, 2011 @ 7:45 am

We travelled on Star Princess in August 2010. Even though there were children and yes they occupied to hot tubs, there are adults only swimming pools we could retract to. We had one smoker below us, but it was not of such that we were not able to leave our doors open. It was a bit disturbing when he conducted business via his laptop and cellphone pretty late one evening, but we then just closed our doors. We went to bed around 23:30 every night and were up quite early (around 5:00 every morning), and were fortunate not to have had noisy neighbours (maybe we just slept too well after our daily excursions!!). May be \live and let live\ will help

22. Jeff S.
June 15th, 2011 @ 7:46 am

@ Nancy R.

While its great that you are a proponent of the rights of others, you provide some poor analogies. Secondhand smoke travels into my lungs and affects my health, while drinkers and gamblers can be loud and annoying, their behavior doesn’t impact the health of others. Courtesy goes both ways, but your freedom stops when it causes me physical harm.

23. Gigi
June 15th, 2011 @ 7:47 am

TO: Carolyn Spencer Brown

Ouch! to your sarcastic comment about the all caps email. Just an FYI—-the majority of people over 50 (which includes most cruisers), are not tech savvy and do not know tech netiquette. I know this because I taught tech classes in public school and to adults.

As far as bad behavior on balconies, it is a prime example of the “entitled” American society in which we now live. The negative legacy of having taught school for 25 years is that one has a strong urge to correct others behavior in public!!! Think about how selfish and self-centered people are in public today: movie theaters, ball games, concerts, restaurants, elevators, libraries, shopping malls, etc. etc.

Let’s NOT blame this “it’s all about me” behavior on teachers, either. There is enough blame to go around for everyone.

24. Leslie
June 15th, 2011 @ 7:48 am

We had a balcony smoker next to us on the last cruise, I truly thought you were not allowed to smoke on balconies but guess I was wrong. And she was a chain smoker and out there all the time, so like the others, I was not able to enjoy my balcony at all. We like to sleep with the door open but not on this cruise because she was out there all night and the smoke was just blowing right into our cabin. The balcony was a waste of money. Nancy R – I don’t think if I choose to drink a glass of wine on my balcony that the smell of the wine would cause my neighbor to retreat indoors. It’s not the same thing. The article was good though, I had never thought about the light on the balcony before, maybe I have been an offender so I will be conscious of that from now on.

25. LINE
June 15th, 2011 @ 7:53 am

I don’t drink and I don’t smoke. I don’t mind people drinking around me (provided they behave normally). I do mind people smoking around me because passive smoking (unavoidably breathing in someone elses smoke) is harmful to your health (as everyone should know by now). By smoking in public areas you are 1. causing others physical harm – it’s as simple as that, or 2. denying them the use of public space if they are unable to enjoy it without the harmful smoke. That is why governments are increasingly banning the practice in public spaces.

26. L. Mackie
June 15th, 2011 @ 7:55 am

I agree that smoking is a big problem. Why can’t they have only one side of the ship’s balconies for smokers, like they do on the decks of the Royal Caribbean ships?

27. Lawrence Reid
June 15th, 2011 @ 7:55 am

I am a smoker and try to be thoughtful of others. But I also pay good money for our cabin or suite just like you. I have news for you non-smokers, I was on a cruise for 18 days on a Celebrity ship and the casino was less then half full because of non-smoking. Get off your high horse and take the Cruise lines that linit the smoking areas.

28. Gayle
June 15th, 2011 @ 8:04 am

I havent had any problems with any balconys at all, as most people are gone and in and out as I am. However what I did have was being on top of a one man band on Carnaval, in the casino and listening to the loud music and singing all night long to the point of the bed shaking, and not being able to sleep.
They should NOT rent out these kinds of rooms or make them VERY cheap and tell the people what they are getting into. I havent had problems with smokers, and ive never smoked ever in my life, the breeze seems to take most of it away, had some loud taking or partying, but they didnt seem to stay out there too long. Kids running get to me too so I also book when school is in. All in all we love the balconys, and I know sometimes you may get an anoying person or 2, but as others have said you cant tell people what to do on their vacation. BUT, it is a very good idea to have certain rooms for smokers and young pary people so they can all party together.We dont smoke, drink occ and are not loud as we are seniors, maybe make an area for us, group different people in certain areas, that would work great, and I’m sure if you asked, those types would rather be in that group anyways…

29. Staci
June 15th, 2011 @ 8:10 am

Katherine…you need to get over yourself. The majority of people are NON smokers. That being said you must not realize how bad you reak of smoke and how much smoke travels. Why do you think so many restaurants, planes, and even some bars are non smoking now?? Try to quit and you will see just how annoying smoking really is.

30. Scott
June 15th, 2011 @ 8:13 am

Can’t get over the smokers! Non-smoking means non-smoking. It is very irritating, blows right back onto the verandah, and irritates our kids too. If you need to smoke, go to one of the designated smoking areas. Kudos to Celebrity on our last cruise we mentioned the problem to Guest Relations on Day 1 and it didn’t happen again and Guest Relations followed up with us several times during the rest of the week to make sure it wasn’t recurring.

31. Matt S
June 15th, 2011 @ 8:13 am

Talking, laughing, drinking, and just people having fun in general. That is by far the worst part about any area on a ship. It is so annoying to see somebody having a good time. Isn’t that the point of a cruise or any other form of vacation? To have a good time. If you are so bothered by the way others enjoy their cruise (which they also spent the same amount of money on as you, and therefore should be allowed to enjoy it however they choose) try considering a road trip vacation next time. You can get in your smoke free, noise free, laughter free, alcohol free, music free, fun free car and drive around for 7 days and never see the same thing until you pull back in your hometown. But then I guess you would have to stay at a hotel which might have all the horrible signs of people having a good time as cruising does. So you may want to buy a RV (you can get a nice used one for about the same money you spent on your high dollar balcony suite on the cruise, and you get to enjoy it and use it more than once)that way you can park it way out in the middle of nowhere where you won’t be bothered by others enjoying their vacation. No one to smoke around you if you don’t, no one to accidentally offend you by walking by with a beer, no one to leave the outside light on while you are trying to gaze up at the stars and no one to play any music that you don’t like. Then if something happens and you don’t enjoy your vacation it is your own fault. Don’t let others ruin your vacation, make it enjoyable for yourself anyway you can, just as the others are doing.

32. Deborah
June 15th, 2011 @ 8:23 am

We are now rethinking booking cabins with balconies on future cruises. Why spend the extra money if we can’t use the balcony? We have been smoked out of our balcony on every cruise (on various cruise lines) the past few years. This past April we not only had a chain smoker next door to us but also had a cigar smoker several cabins down. It was not pleasant. Had to go inside. Our next booking on the Allure of the Seas is an inward facing balcony where smoking is not allowed. And, the one after that on Holland America is a water view cabin. Unless they fix the problem we most likely will not be spending the money on balcony cabins.

33. michael
June 15th, 2011 @ 8:25 am

As an entertainer on some cruise ships,I can say that we are usually briefed on the dangers of fire on the ships. For the SMOKERS THAT throw their STILL BURNING BUTTS overboard, they usually don’t go into the ocean. The wind will usually blow them into someone’s cabin below, OR on someone’s belly. So, not only are you guys annoying, but you can be dangerous!!

34. sandra
June 15th, 2011 @ 8:25 am

The worst was on Royal Caribbean. We booked a balcony next to the library and the first night of the cruise we discovered they had a Cigar Smokers gathering of about 15 gentlemen smoking cigars up wind of us. (sponsored by the cruise line) Nasty!!! I have severe asthma and went down to the pursers office to see if we could be moved. Luckily they had a cabin that had just had new carpet installed and we could have it. The fumes from the carpet were bad but not as bad as the cigar smoke. We then slept with the door to the balcony open all night so I could breathe. Not one of our better cruises.

35. William M.
June 15th, 2011 @ 8:27 am

“Get over the smokers.”

No, get rid of the smoking. Must more compassionate than getting rid of the smokers, don’t you think?

“We are everywhere.”

Yes, we know. That’s the problem, you see.

“I can’t believe that on the open seas you can smell the smoke.”

That’s because you’re thoroughly corroded your ability to smell burning leaves, by inhaling the smoke from them more or less throughout the day. Your self-induced handicap makes you olfactorily “blind.”

” What about the cruisers that fart in the elevators?”

Do you seriously want to compare the number of elevator-farters with smokers? What planet do you live on? Not ours, surely. Except for when you set fire to the weed and breathe it.

“Try throwing them overboard.”

Who said anything about throwing anyone overboard. Non-smokers contemplate jumping overboard from time to time!

Again, it’s far more humane to simply ban the smoker from the ship entirely (no need to toss anyone, dontcha see?), or to confine them to their own ship.

36. Chris L
June 15th, 2011 @ 8:29 am

@ Katherine in particular…..
What an attitude! It’s people like you that do ruin it for other smokers!!
My 1st cruise, on the Rhapsody of the Seas in april 2011 was amazing…except for the smokers in the cabin next door. We were unable to have our balcony door open at night, nor spend much time out there during the day because BOTH of the occupants next door were chain smokers…& chose not to smoke together!!
Totally inconsiderate, as the smoke lingered for ages after they went inside. maybe the smokers should be on 1 side of the ship only, then non smokers will be less likely to be affected.
And yes, smokers are everywhere, but the amount of smoker happy areas are decreasing at a huge rate…thank goodness. Smoking is a right & a personal choice, but sadly passive smokers have NO say!!

37. Numbers65 in Ohio
June 15th, 2011 @ 8:30 am

Sorry Katherine if you think anyone on a balcony can smell the open seas if you are smoking on the balcony next door, or even have their balcony door open with you smoking next door, than you have been smoking so long you must have no sense of smell left and barely any sense of taste. Think about someone outside of yourself. Comparing that to a “fart” in the elevator is rediculous. Farting is not a choice for most people like smoking and most people try to do that when nobody is around. I hope if we cruise together and you smoke next to me that I can muster up a good fart to blow your way everytime you light up, maybe then you can see what continous air invasion is all about. SELFISH!

38. Noel
June 15th, 2011 @ 8:32 am

I am an ex-smoker who just went on my first cruise on RC. We had a balcony cabin. I find these comments to be pissy at best, just how much time are these complainers spending on their balcony and not “out” at port or other places on the huge ship??? Every time my husband and I smoked on the balcony (1 in the morning, 1 before our late dinner, 1 before bed) no one else was ever on a neighboring balcony that we could tell. I wonder how much time the complainers are spending in their rooms because I thought the point of a cruise is to “do”, not sit in your cabin. I have to wonder about the validity of some of these complaints. Take away some more of American’s rights and we might as well be living in Orwell’s 1984.

39. Catherine
June 15th, 2011 @ 8:33 am

The cruise of a lifetime – 10 days through the islands of French Polynesia – starting and ending in Papeete, Tahiti, was almost ruined by a drunken Australian couple next door. We paid extra for a mini-suite and were treating to tha clonking and banging of their wooden wind chimes that they thoughtfully hung on their balcony. YES, we COULD hear them over the sound of the ocean! And YES, we COULD smell their cigarette smoke on the open ocean. When we politely asked if they could take down the chimes, at least at night, we were treated to a long string of obscenities from the red-nosed, fading beach boy and his much younger, fake-boobed bimbo companion. They stumbled on dance floors, spit as they talked to other passengers and made our balcony experience miserable. I will never forget the beauty of that paradise or the ugly of my neighbors.

40. BKA
June 15th, 2011 @ 8:34 am

Nancy R, Non-drinkers are typically not impacted by someone drinking. Smoking produces second-hand smoke which permeates the adjoining cabin balconies – to the displeasure of anyone around trying to stay healthy. My biggest complaint is SMOKING on the balconies. When will the cruise lines address this true fire hazard? I had my power strip confiscated when boarding on our last cruise – due to the potential fire hazard??? Give me a break.

41. Jack
June 15th, 2011 @ 8:35 am

The smoking supporters fall back on two arguments — 1. it’s legal so let it be, just rely on courtesy; and 2. people drink in public yet we don’t try to restrict them. Well, Katherine (above) doesn’t even believe we can smell smoke at sea. How can she be courteous about something that doesn’t exist in her mind?
As for the second point, I (who don’t drink) don’t have to swallow the public drinkers alcohol, but I do have to inhale the public smoker’s smoke.
Mostly, I’ll stay in my room until we reach the next port.

42. Pat Tingler
June 15th, 2011 @ 8:38 am

The thing about smoking is that it is harmful to other people. I don’t think most people here are complaining about people who step out on their balconies to smoke a few times a day. However, people who continually smoke cause problems for those around them who don’t smoke. A person has a right to do anything he/she wishes only as long as it doesn’t harm another person. I like the idea of making one side of the ship smoking and the other side non smoking for the balcony rooms. This would prevent smoke from a lower level rising, or for people who have balcony rooms, there could be certain hours to smoke on the balconies. I also agree with some of the comments about non smokers in the bars and casinos on the ships. We try not to even walk through those because of cigarette smoke. I think the solution isn’t to ban smoking but to make it compatible with the people who don’t smoke and to enforce the rules. One of the things that concerned me on a recent cruise we took was that several times we smelled cigarette smoke in the hallways, but we were on a floor with no balconies. Therefore, someone had to be smoking in one of the rooms.

43. mk
June 15th, 2011 @ 8:39 am

Seriously, folks! Can we at least be honest???
The reason smoking is a big deal is very simple- 2nd hand smoke!
Comparing drinking and gambling is ridiculous! If I take a drink-it effects me…not you. If I bet on roulette-it effects me, not you. If you smoke around me-it physically effects you and ME!

If you choose to smoke, that is your business. If you choose to smoke around me, it becomes my business as well. It then is not only about your rights, it slso becomes about my rights.

The earlier poster is right…the more the attitude that you can do what you want and be as inconsiderate as you want, the more people will seek to ban smoking all together.
Choose to be more respectful and people won’t seek to have “your” rights restricted.

44. Sheron
June 15th, 2011 @ 8:40 am

I am a non-smoker and I do believe everyone has there own right as to whether they want to smoke or not as well as whatever it is people choose to do with their vacation time but with that being said for the comment to get over the smokers we are everywhere and you can’t smell the smoke on the open seas, that is untrue and that goes for anyone that smokes even in an outside area. Unfortunately when in a confined area (such as a balcony area) or passing by or being in an elevator, you still get the aftermath of the smell or smoke traveling in your direction or lingering on clothes, However I don’t disagree that smokers shouldn’t have the right to smoke but to ask others to endure your bad habits is not a fair request either. As someone suggested, just like major hotel chains have designated floors/area why not do the same on a ship by designating certain floors and/or areas. The issue I see is smokers want non smokers to respect their rights but it goes both ways. You choose to smoke and I don’t but both need respect one another. Unfortunately, their are people that are clueless and inconsiderate and that is why rules have to be set in place. It is not a matter of dictating what you can or cannot do, it is making someone have consideration and respect others. As far as the noise, loud talking, banging doors, the unfortunate part you are going to get this no matter what ship you are on. I like cruising and will continue to cruise and take into stride, you are going come across all walks of life. You just have to deal with it and not let it ruin your vacation.

45. Roger
June 15th, 2011 @ 8:42 am

As a non-smoker I have to admit i dont like being in closed areas with smokers,but in the open air i have no problem,people who complain about alcony smokers are the type that have to complain about something…so it might as well be the ever victimised smoker…as a footnote i have often found on cruises that the smokers side of the ship is where all the fun and sociable people are,the non-smoking side is full of miserable people complaining about the weather,food,service and whatever else they can think of while the other side is simply haveing fun,so i can put up with a liitle smoke,at least i can have a few laughs and a great cruise.Smokers cop it from all angles these days,but they are sociable,fun and know how to enjoy themselves,unlike the dried up prunes scowling at them from the opposite side of the ship putting on that false cough as they walk by.

46. tracy
June 15th, 2011 @ 8:43 am

this is why we paid extra for a balcony room ,because my wife smokes .i do not ,but its not fair for her to have to go so far to smoke ,every body has some habit ,i guess just get over it or stay home with your doors closed

47. Bob
June 15th, 2011 @ 8:48 am

Mike L. has the right take on smoking and other such God given rights-lack of consideration or respect for others. The solution is simple-smoke in your rooms ONLY. If you’re a smoker, is there as issue with that? That way you are only affecting your sphere of existence, not others. Alternatively, cruise ships could have an enclosed smoking lounge somewhere in the bowels of the ship and pipe the smoke out of the top. I have walked both sides of the smoke scene as a former smoker. Even when I was a smoker, I worked diligently to make sure my smoke didn’t not traverse into others peaceful and clean existence. That is out of repsect and consideration. Today’s world is full of “have fun at all costs” people who simply don’t get what mature and thoughtful social skills are. If you want to drink and be loud, go to the bar. That’s great and I hope you have a good time as you probably have earned the privilege. You haven’t earned the privilege to drink and be loud in your room when your neighbor is trying to sleep. Would you enjoy your neighbor drinking and being loud while you’re nursing a hangover at 10 AM in the morn? And yes, I drink. The kids running and other forms of rude behavior all point to poor upbringing and lack of respect. The best cruise lines will deal with those issues realizing that these folks are not their desired client base. Carnival is a great line to “act up” and let loose. Celebrity is a great line to enjoy a more quiet cruise. Pick your poison and do enjoy but for me, if behavior is out of bounds, it gets reported. some folks just don’t get it.

48. Yvonne
June 15th, 2011 @ 8:49 am

I too could not sit outside my balcony because there was no fresh air only smoke. It was definately a turn off and put a damper on the whole sitting on the balcony enjoying the “fresh air” thing.

I have never had the problem with music next door however on a recent NCL cruise we booked a penthouse and we were over the disco. Music and vibrating waves of sound until 4 in the am.

I was livid especially since we were told at the front desk after we complained that on every cruise the people in the room complain and the cruise line will not block off the room.

Now I check what is above or below me on every ship.

49. Tina
June 15th, 2011 @ 8:53 am

We try to go on lines that do not allow smoking on their balconies – but it really irks me when people do it anyway!! And I really hate it when someone is smoking pot on their balcony!

50. Gary K
June 15th, 2011 @ 8:54 am

One thing not addressed yet in this thread is feeding the birds off of the balcony.

On a recent cruise the passenger on the balcony above ours would bring crackers from the buffet and feed the gulls whenever they were present.

More than once did we find droppings on our deck chairs etc.

I once told him that we were down below and he stopped… for the moment.

Inconsiderate at least.

51. Susan
June 15th, 2011 @ 8:55 am

Smokers! My husband and I always get a balcony cabin, I also have asthma so I am very sensitive to the awful second hand smoke. Cruise lines should have a smoking section of cabins. Give us some fresh air, please!

52. edofmaui
June 15th, 2011 @ 9:02 am

Passengers who are truly offended by cigar or ciragette smoke, as am I (allergy). Should get together and insist the cruise lines have a non smoke cruise available. Completly non smoke anywhere. I’ll bet it would fill up fast if offered.

53. DeaverTex
June 15th, 2011 @ 9:02 am

I’m sorry, Katherine, but we CAN smell the smoke because it’s not in the open seas — it’s on the balcony upwind of ours. If you’re a smoker, it’s hard to realize just how pungent the smell of cigarette smoke is, and how far away it can be smelled. It can carry a mile downwind, for example. Did you know that? (I’ve verified this by experiment.)

I respect a smoker who is careful where his/her smoke goes, and who understands that not everyone wants to inhale smoke. I hope you’re that kind of smoker. I’d be happier in a world where nobody smoked, but that’s not my choice to make, now is it?

By the way, I agree about cruisers who fart in the elevators, but at least their colonic eruptions don’t make my eyes water, my nose run, and my sinuses fill up. Hmm… come to think of it, the particularly noteworthy practitioners CAN do all those things.

Keep on cruisin’.

54. H&L
June 15th, 2011 @ 9:04 am

I totally agree with the etiquette when you have a balcony! My husband and I had a balcony for the first time last year, and our daughter (13) was in the room with us. We had this young couple next door that had mouths like truck drivers and smoked like fiends, that I wouldn’t allow my daughter out there to have to deal with it! THey also fought the entire cruise and at one point during the night, we thought they were going to come crashing through OUR wall! Security was called almost every night on them for being so aweful. Was NOT what we expected at all!

55. Joe
June 15th, 2011 @ 9:12 am

Sorry Katie but “smokers” are in the definite minority now. If you need to smoke another cancer stick hey that is your right as it is my right to want to breathe air free from your noxious odor. And yes Katie whether you wish to believe it or not anyone can tell when you had a smoke, you reek of the stale tobacco odor it is all over you and your clothes and anyone within ear shot of you is forced to smell it.

56. Betty Boop
June 15th, 2011 @ 9:14 am

Well, overzealous smoking is bad, loud voices & banging doors are bad,screaming children are bad, night time lights left on are bad……but obviously sex on the balcony is ok. Whew ! I’m good !!!!!;)

57. Barb
June 15th, 2011 @ 9:15 am

Yes, we can still smell it, even outside. It causes problems for some of us, even outside. I am trying Celebrity since they do not allow smoking in the cabins or room balconies (unlike most). If I am still assualted by smoke, I’ll probably never cruise again and stick to vacations in places like California.

58. Suzie
June 15th, 2011 @ 9:16 am

Wow, you must all have had some really crappy balconies. I always have a balcony cabin , always have smokers next door, and not once can I say I’ve been bothered with the smoke!

Neighbours who talk loud enough to be heard in the next port of call are a bit inconsiderate but I dont let it bother me, I can put on my headphones and listen to music.

59. Steve
June 15th, 2011 @ 9:18 am

Let’s face it – it’s time to ban smoking all together! It’s bad enough having a smoker on the balcony next door, but smelling the cigarette smoke as you walk along the cabin corridors is obnoxious – let alone smoking in the casino! RCI lost a huge amount of money from me at Easter because I could not get to the roulette table because of the smokers

60. John
June 15th, 2011 @ 9:19 am

A good case seems to have been made for not booking a balcony cabin – isinizI think!

61. Mary Lou
June 15th, 2011 @ 9:26 am

Smokers are nasty people. Most have no consideration for any one else. That being said, we have had balconies that were totally unusable due to cigar and chain smokers below us and next to us. We have tried to get balconies forward where the wind would move the smoke behind us. We got the first balcony behind life boats only to find a smoking station right under us on the deck below. Due to the stair step lay out of most Princess ships we just give up and get inside rooms. How about smoking on one side of the ship only?

62. Scott
June 15th, 2011 @ 9:30 am

As a former smoker, I didn’t realize how disgusting my habit was until I quit (cold turkey, 19 years ago). As a smoker, you don’t realize how the smoke permeates clothing, household furnishings, even the wide-open spaces outdoors. Believe it, Katherine, we can smell the smoke….and it’s disgusting. As disgusting as 20 percent of the population (smokers) who dictate the comfort and health of the vast majority.

63. Julie D
June 15th, 2011 @ 9:30 am

smokers and loud music are my pet peeves. I finally saved up enough money to book a cabin with a balcony, so I could finally find a nice place to sit outside, since there are never any chairs by the pool and the music is so loud it is hard to carry on a conversation, only to have my next door neighbors get obnoxiously drunk, smoke and fight constantly and blast their music through portable speakers they put out on their balcony. Perhaps their should be \quiet, smoke free\ decks on ships?

64. Chuck
June 15th, 2011 @ 9:35 am

I enjoy cruising and also having a balcony. Most of the time there are no problems but I have had neighbors who like to talk like they are giving a lecture to a football team at halftime, and ones who drag chairs across the balcony and also the ones who leave lights on all night. These thing do annoy and if you are looking for some privacy do not get an aft suite with extended balcony. The lower the deck the more you are exposed.

65. Renee
June 15th, 2011 @ 9:38 am

I personally don’t like inhaling second hand smoke but I do understand that everyone has a right to do as they wish (legally that is)on their vacation. I wish the cruise line would make the cabins on one side of the ship smoking cabins and keep the other side smoke free. I know the ships I have been on try to keep one side of the Lido deck smoke free. For the most part the majority of guest who smoke will smoke on the smoking side.

66. moondoggie
June 15th, 2011 @ 9:38 am

Easy solution–for ships with balconies, one side of the ship is reserved for non smokers. Very easy to control and understand when booking one’s cruise.

67. BRYAN AND ROGER
June 15th, 2011 @ 9:39 am

SMOKING. SMOKING. SMOKING. Oh, did I say smoking? There have been times we were not able to sit on our balcony or keep the door open due to the people next door.

Another time, the women on either side of us decided to hold a hog hollering conversation between eachother at 7:30 in the morning. I had to put a stop to that right away. I went out there and had to get NEW YORK on them!

68. Manda
June 15th, 2011 @ 9:41 am

Katherine, you seem to forget that breaking wind is a natural occurrence, and that the smell sticks around for a minute or two in a closed space, or pretty much instantly in an open space. No harm caused. Now, if I get stuck downwind from chain smokers, I risk either having an asthma attack (severe allergies to tobacco smoke) or having to abandon the balcony that we paid an extra $300 per person for. Is that really fair to us? I have no problem with people smoking, but your choice of addiction shouldn’t affect my enjoyment of the cruise. 69. Denise June 15th, 2011 @ 9:45 am AND DON’T THROW YOUR BUTTS OVERBOARD!!! 70. Jeannie June 15th, 2011 @ 9:48 am Of course some smokers can’t believe others can smell the smoke… and they also don’t know that they reek of smoke themselves. Sorry to break it to you Katherine, but on that elevator, to non-smokers, you stink. And please don’t cover it up with too much perfume, because then it smells like perfume AND stale smoke. And perfumes these days are not made of flowers, but use industrial chemicals that soften plastic (pthalates) to persist and disperse in the air. It is these volatile chemicals and those in tobacco smoke that cause most of the discomfort for non-smokers, people with asthma, etc. — not the “smell”. 71. Billy June 15th, 2011 @ 9:49 am Furthermore: the writer of this article was on a DISNEY ship!! Anyone who smokes in THAT situation where there are small children around, should be drawn and QUARTERED!! We do everything we can to protect their little bodies and keep them safe, and some jacka@@ is SMOKING on their balconies?!?! If I had a small child, I’d throw a pitcher of water around the side and put that garbage out. Nobody would hurt MY child. And second hand smoking doesn’t just hurt, my friends: it kills! Scientific Fact. 72. Robin June 15th, 2011 @ 9:50 am Katherine, you are precisely the kind of neighbor we dread! Your contempt for non-smokers is obvious. Believe me, you can definitely smell the smoke on the open seas, it is not only unpleasant, but for some it is downright dangerous! Do you know nothing about second hand smoke? 73. Dick June 15th, 2011 @ 9:56 am As a musician, I book balcony cabins so that I can practice during appropriate times of day, usually when no one else is out. I hope it’s not offensive, but practicing is not something that can be put on hold. I hope I’m not bothering anyone. By the way, many non-smokers are extremely sensitive to tobacco smoke in very small amounts, and even to the remnants of it on the clothing of smokers or their family members. I’d rather take an elevator with a flatulence sufferer than someone with exudant smoking residua. 74. Jean-ann Helmholtz June 15th, 2011 @ 9:58 am I must agree with the smoking thing, our neighbors, on one side only the other side had no room, would go out and smoke a pack or it seemed like it and then throw the butts onto our balcony. When we wanted to sit outside, we couldn’t in fact, unlike our other cruise these people were not really friendly. 75. John June 15th, 2011 @ 10:00 am Loud, obnoxious children yelling and screaming and slamming balcony doors. The balcony is not a nursery. 76. Bill Johnson June 15th, 2011 @ 10:03 am I do not smoke, drink, or make loud noises, but the tone of the original complaint would want me to run away form this complainant. Is this person even capable of having a good time, without finding fault with something. As for the person considering not booking a balcony, there is nothing better, than sitting out on the balcony, enjoying breakfast and a cup of coffee. It’s just a more fun way to travel, 77. val smith June 15th, 2011 @ 10:06 am My husband is a smoker and I am an ex-smoker. Instead of banning smoking completely from a balcony room, like Celebrity has done, make one side of the ship non-smoking. If there are no rooms left for the non-smokers, then its up to them to decide if they want the smoking side. As much as I don’t like smoking either, the righteous non-smokers are just as obnoxious. 78. Robert June 15th, 2011 @ 10:10 am I think people need to chill out and realize they are on vacation. With that being said, there is a time and a place for everything. I don’t think its unreasonable to step out on to the balcony for a smoke. To spend 6 days on the balcony chaining it up seems a bit excessive. If you are going to sit in your room all week and complain about others then save a few grand and do it at home. I think children are the biggest inconvenience on cruises and I am sure if I had 2 of them I would think differently. 79. Jsnice June 15th, 2011 @ 10:12 am I feel for smokers, but some of them do need to be more sensitive to others. I really think ships should have one non-smoking side of cabins and one smoking side. Royal Caribbean had a non-smoker’s side outside by the pools on one cruise we went on. That helped me stay away from the smoke. I wanted to go on the Carnival Paradise but couldn’t afford it. Now it is no longer a non-smoking ship. I think I read that statistically a higher percentage of smokers are also drinkers, and cruise lines make a lot of money on drinks. So that may be one reason there are no non-smoking ships. 80. gail June 15th, 2011 @ 10:13 am My husband and I travel exclusively on the Celebrity ships, and there are wonderful NO SMOKING policies,$250 fine for smoking on the balcaony. One person’s pleasure should not be at the expense of other’s. In addition passenger’s know the policy before they book the trip! Don’t like it??? Go somewhere else. On the pool deck, there are 2 designated areas, although passengers alway’s try to cheat! I however, always call them on the carpet and they never say a word, because they know they are gulty, I do believe however; that staff should be more diligent about enforcing those rules!!!

81. val smith
June 15th, 2011 @ 10:15 am

ps. #45 Roger…agree with you 100%

82. Mrs. B
June 15th, 2011 @ 10:16 am

DH and I always book a balcony room, mostly because we enjoy the added space and love to have breakfast/coffee out there in the warm mornings. We do smoke a cigar on our balcony from time to time but are not chain cigar smokers in the least. We’ve never had anyone complain, but,if someone stuck their head over and asked us nicely to hold off while they were out there, we probably would have.

What we found terribly annoying on one RCI cruise was our next door neighbors were LOUD. The first thing we heard when they came into their stateroom before sailing was the man saying to the woman “I can’t wait to do you on this balcony!” Nice. We don’t think that ever happened (thank God) but, the woman sat out there several times a day yakking LOUDLY into her cell phone, talking to her young son back home. Ok, sure, call your kid a few times while on vacay, but, three or four times a day? It was really, really irritating.

In general, though, we’ve had very few issues on our cruises with fellow passengers.

83. cassandra44
June 15th, 2011 @ 10:24 am

My worst balcony experience also involved incessant smoking from the next balcony and the very worst ships are the Crown/Emerald/Ruby Princess. If you have a Caribe deck balcony not only does the smoke drift across but it also comes up from below and down from above. At least 2 guys were smoking cigars which should never be permitted.
These balconies are the least private of any of the ships we have sailed on….there is no privacy whatsoever…and the Dolphin deck mini suites are really not much better.
Far better to book an oceanview room and use the Sanctuary during the day….
Another complaint….a group of passengers travelling together but where only 1 couple has a balcony. Everyone else piles onto the balcony for parties every night…
Not what we were looking forward to….

84. Janice
June 15th, 2011 @ 10:25 am

Roger, I have had the opposite experience. I’ve stayed on the non-smoking side of the pool and found it peaceful and very enjoyable. Just because people don’t like smoke (and sometimes smoke outside does not blow away and IS offensive), it does not mean these are people who complain about everything including the weather. Sure there are some of them…smokers AND non smokers. But I’ve found lots of fun on the non-smoking side and seen lots of drinking and partying groups on the non-smoking side.

85. Sylvain Forest
June 15th, 2011 @ 10:26 am

I smoke 1 cigar/day while cruising. I do it in the cigar room, after dinner. Every night, someone (usually a woman) will wander into the cigar room and wave her right hand about her face like she is being attacked by a swarm of bees, while the left hand covers her nose. I get a big kick out of that. Satisfied that she has put on a good show, she will scurry out. It’s like: Hey, lady… this is the cigar room. Nobody dragged you in here, now be gone.
Even more bothersome is cheap perfume that is liberally laddled onto the wearer’s body until a blue haze follows them through the corridors. One of those days, I’ll try lighting one of those hazes with my cigar’s butane torch lighter, pretty much the same way college kids light farts. Who knows, it may produce a resounding WOOSH!
And if you ask me, international law should be amended so rowdy kids who run down the halls at all hours of the day could be used as shark bait off the poop deck, no fishing license required.
Well, I’m off to book my 26th cruise.
Sylvain.

86. cassandra44
June 15th, 2011 @ 10:28 am

Next time we sail we are going to take a can of air freshener to spray on any adjoining balcony which has heavy smoking.

87. Deezznuts
June 15th, 2011 @ 10:29 am

The doors to a balcony are extremely heavy and sound proof. The chances of hearing anything outside is slim to none if your door is shut on most ships. With the wind, noise is not much of an issue when you outside either – most sounds are drowned out. I can see where smoke can be a problem, but the rest of these gripes are greatly exaggerated.

88. Crimson Forever
June 15th, 2011 @ 10:33 am

I suggest all of the people pissing and moaning about the smoking book all inclusive resorts……you’ve got the ocean, the beach, all the same services and I know they have these that are non-smoking. It is what it is….you KNOW this going in. Don’t expect a different behavior to something you’ve already experienced over and over. Smokers pay their hard earned money as you do, and will continue to smoke as you will probably continue to bitch….if not about this, something else I’m sure. Live and let live….although it may not be what YOU approve of!!!!!!

89. Richard
June 15th, 2011 @ 10:34 am

I don’t understand all the angst when the solution is so simple: place the smokers in cabins on one side of the ship, non-smokers on the other. We all have to fill out questionnaires anyway.

90. Barbara
June 15th, 2011 @ 10:38 am

My husband and I took our first cruise on the Norwegian Gem in April. We had an inside cabin in ‘steerage’ as my husband liked to say. As a nonsmoker I sympathize with the people who want a balcony and the people next door to you smoke like chimneys. The two annoying thing for me was the kids hogging the hot tubs (where were the parents?) and a gentleman smoking a cigar (disgusting) sitting near us and his smoke blew in our direction. I thought NCL had clever signs on the ship regarding cigarette butts: ‘please do not throw cigarettes overboard (the fish complain).’

91. Dan
June 15th, 2011 @ 10:39 am

make port side smoking and starboard side non-smoking and then the cruise lines can do their own homework on which cruisers they prefer to have aboard.

92. Kenneth
June 15th, 2011 @ 10:40 am

Celebrity is the way to go. No smoking on balconies and they will enforce it. My complaint: On their Solstice class ships the all mounted flat screens carry the sound thru to the next cabin. That’s when I DO lean around the partition to ask the offenders to tone it down!

93. MrObvious
June 15th, 2011 @ 10:41 am

I can’t believe smoking is the only behaviour topic on this thread. Suggestion: Go out on your balcony about 1-2am and look around at all the other balconies on your side of the ship. Typically I’ll see 2 or 3 couples hanging over the rail doing the nasty in the nude by starlight. I’m happy they’re enjoying themselves but if I can see them, I’m sure there are several dozen kids that can find them (and get an eyefull) as well. I’ve been on 10 cruises and gotten this view on at least 7 of them after I noticed it the first time so it’s NOT an isolated incidence. If they’re close enough to my cabin, I usually try to get their attention so that they know they’ve been seen, mainly because I love watching their embarrasment if I run into them the next day anywhere else on the ship. I’m no prude but COMMON!!!! Exhibitionism? Really? Oh, BTW: I’ve seen officers with binoculars in the steering house (that little room that hangs off the side of the wheel house) looking down the side of the ship so I know they’re aware of the same activity going on. Based on their reactions I think they were grading the participants on figure/attire/style, because it appeared that they were joking about the view….and doing nothing about it.

94. Meredith
June 15th, 2011 @ 10:45 am

Am I the only one who thinks hearing/seeing your neighbors having sex on their balcony would be considered bad behavior? Not even mentioned here!

95. Florida girl
June 15th, 2011 @ 10:46 am

Smokers are a huge problem, in our mind. Of our 9 cruises, our most recent cruise was our first balcony stateroom as well as our first trip on Celebrity. We smelled cigarette smoke on our balcony a handful of times, but for the most part delighted in the beautiful fresh air. As non-smokers, we would never book a balcony on Carnival or Princess, and would be apt to avoid sailing again on Carnival either line due to their more lax policies. I don’t enjoy breathing in smoke – never mind the safety concerns- and we appreciate the more stringent regulations of Royal Caribbean and Celebrity.

To the poster who questioned people spending a great deal of time on their balconies: you’ve never traveled on an Alaskan cruise, have you? We adored our balcony and frequently had breakfast outside (in 50 degree weather!) as well as sitting out there to read, watch the glacier or just take in the Inside Passage. We stood on the balcony to watch our arrivals/departures from port, but we were too busy to use it during actual port time. I’d be hard-pressed to criticize someone for wanting to enjoy their balcony. Balconies are a wonderful extension of the rooms, if you have respectable neighbors.

96. Mery R
June 15th, 2011 @ 10:48 am

I have been on several cruises over the last 15 or 20 years and can honestly say I have never been bothered with noisy neighbors or smokers.I used to be a smoker too,quit in ’89 so I do understand the head of a smoker.But don’t y’all find that people are no longer as considerate as they used to be.There seems to be less and less manners especially in the younger crowd.Yes, I’m a tad older but love to travel and have a good time.I like loud music but in an appropitate setting,not while I’m trying to sleep or read a book.If I am ever next door to anyone like some of you have described in the above comments,I would in contact with security all the time. There is no excuse the cruise line could give to justify why I should have to put up with after spending my hard earned money on the trip.And God willing I hope I never have these problems.

97. Tamie
June 15th, 2011 @ 10:50 am

We took our first cruise in 10 years on the Allure of the Seas. Every single time we stepped out onto our balcony, our neighbors were out there smoking and coughing. They spent literally the entire cruise on their balcony smoking. I’d read about these problem balcony smokers in the months leading up to our cruise and had high hopes we wouldn’t encounter them. Although you try to “get over it”, if smoking really bothers you as it does myself, it was a real distraction and disappointment. And as Mike L. mentioned, it amazes me how many people allow their cabin/hotel doors to shut freely, without any regard to neighbors at any hour. These are usually the same people who talk loudly in the hallways outside your door at any hour and will shut the elevator door in your face when they see you coming.

98. Carolyn
June 15th, 2011 @ 10:50 am

Ok I know this is old but I never smoked and my father in law has smoked for 60 years.. just ended up with pneomonia and has not smoked for 8 months.He never knew how bad he smelled. he never knew the taste of food before.. he now will complain about smoke!! The person who faught me.. I WOULD LOVE THE PERSON WHO SAID THERE MANY SMOKE FREE BOATS OUT THERE TO DIRECT ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.I would love to find one.and with a crowd not over 80..I paid extra for a balcony to have open fresh sea air to breath not clouds of tar filled smoke.And yes the smokers paid extra also, I get it but why does not the cruise companies do something Make sure they book all smokers on one side of the ship and Non on the others and then it is on them to enforce instead of us clobbering each other over the head.Smokers and non are not bad people they both just want there rights! My right is smoke free because my face swells up and my eyes swell closed allergic to smoke Makes it hard to enjoy a cruise looking thru squinted eyes

99. wendi
June 15th, 2011 @ 10:52 am

We have been on seven cruises, almost always in balconies. Smoking is definitely a problem, and it isn’t just with “crappy balconies”. Our most recent cruise was the absolute worst, and unfortunately it was the first cruise where I actually could have had some balcony time to myself (kids are finally old enough to occupy themselves).
Roger: I don’t consider myself a “dried up scowling prune” and if ANY of the cruise lines (we have been on 4 different ones) had offered a “non-smoking” side of the ship, I would have been thrilled to stay on that side. We did have plenty of fun and didn’t seem to think that those with cigarettes in their hands enjoyed themselves more…rather we are always feeling bad that they are likely shortening their lives and won’t get to experience as MUCH fun as we will over the long run. Also, contrary to what you might think, we didn’t complain about anything else on this cruise, and it was the first time out of all of them that we ever launched any complaint at all. The smoking was really bad, the hacking/disgusting (non-stop) on one side of us was even worse and definitely marred our ability to enjoy the balcony. We made the best of it and enjoyed the rest of the ship instead, but it really is a waste of money when the one amenity that we looked most forward to and spent extra money on was unusable.

100. Pam
June 15th, 2011 @ 10:53 am

I think the issue of second-hand smoke on balconies is more emotional (emotions can trigger asthma attacks, too) than actually harmful. There is so much wind on a balcony that very little of the smoke lingers – a completely different scenario than inside a bar or casino. I don’t smoke but I’ve caught the smell of smoke on a balcony – the concentration is far less than in the casino, which I avoid.

101. Sam T
June 15th, 2011 @ 10:59 am

I’ve read many of the preceding comments from smokers and noise-makers in defense of their habits. The common problem with their arguments is a total disregard for the laws of atmospheric physics. Smoke and sound carry through the air, gambling habits and eating habits don’t. So, to make that comparison to people telling them “how to live” is absurd and irrational. Smoke is toxic and noxious and deadly, period. As it drifts into neighboring balconies, cabins and lungs, it violates non-smokers rights’ to fresh air. Nobody is telling you not to smoke, just don’t do it near us non-smokers.
As to Cruise Lines banning smoke: Won’t Happen – smokers gamble and gamblers smoke; and that’s where the real money is made (the casino).
Loud Behavior: LOUD is rude 24 hours a day, whether people are sleeping or not. Conversation level talking is fine, but drunken, obnoxious behavior offends all under the sun or moon. Think of the cabin areas like a library and leave the noise up at the pool deck areas where it belongs.

102. Alex
June 15th, 2011 @ 10:59 am

Best cruise balcony experience: heard ‘sounds’ next door… peeked over, saw the hot couple having ‘fun’. Was a bit embarrassed until she peered around the divider and invited me and my honey over to join the fun.

One of our best vacations ever…

103. Sam Amster
June 15th, 2011 @ 11:00 am

Poor balcony behavior!!!. On my trip from Ft Lauderdale to L.A. Dec 5 2010 NCL Star.
Both of my neighboring balconies smoked 24-7
I could not even open my door.( I have Asthma) NCL gave me a voucher for 320.I did not consider this compensation as my entire trip was spoiled, and I was sick for a weeek after the trip. I don’t think that this practice has been aleviated. Sam, Brooklyn NY 104. mhatter58 June 15th, 2011 @ 11:04 am I have been on 5 cruises and on each one, had a balcony room. I have never had any of these things happen. The only problem we had on the Princess Ruby, we had the large balcony, which allowed you to look into the balcony below. One day a elderly gentleman was on his deck talking on his cell phone with nothing on but the phone, if you get my drift… I couldn’t have been a hottie with a 6 pack…..lol. Anyway the long and the short of it… the only way to cruise is with a balcony… enjoy and don’t focus on other peoples crap. 105. Kimberly03051 June 15th, 2011 @ 11:06 am Non-smokers get over yourselves. If you want the balcony experience without the smoke, get a room on the back of the boat. The smoke follows the wake and won’t affect you. My husband and I will always spend the extra money to get a balcony on the back of the boat so I can enjoy my fruit and coffee every morning on the deck with my husband. Additionally, a back balcony is always bigger with more privacy. Every afternoon, my husband will sit out there with his Ipod playing Jimmy Buffet or some kind of cruise music while he smokes a cigar. He worked his ass off to pay for this cruise, and if he wants to smoke a cigar or if I want to smoke, it’s our right to do so. We paid for that privelege. 106. cdhaney June 15th, 2011 @ 11:10 am For all of those complaining about the smokers, why don’t we just put them on an innertube and drag them behind the boat. We can occasionally toss them a bagel or two from the rear of the ship. While we’re at it, lets get an innertube for the kids, the drinkers, the loud talkers… oh heck – let’s get one for the elderly too – they walk too slow! People lighten up! If a smoker, kid, noise is all it takes to ruin your vacation, then you’ll never have any fun. Thanks for reading my rant. 107. G-Man June 15th, 2011 @ 11:16 am You have to admit some smokers can be pretty rude. We were at an outdoor bar where smoking was permitted and I don’t have as much of a problem with it as my wife. We sat all the way at the end of the bar and pushed the ash trays toward the middle. Pretty soon a guy walks up, grabs an ash try and squeezes in between me and the wall, closer than my wife was sitting on the other side of me, and lights up. He was so close I could smell stale smoke before he lit up. Did I mention there were three seats open at the bar along with empty tables? I just turned and looked at the moron and said, “You’re kidding right?” He looked offended and stomped off. I don’t mind smokers but have some consideration. 108. Monty3038 June 15th, 2011 @ 11:18 am Wow. I couldn’t even read through all of the comments. You non-smokers are pathetic. You’ve already got 90% of the boat. Now a smoker doesn’t want to get out of bed, have to drag themselves through a shower and dressing for a cigarette and they are the devil. Let’s lighten up a bit. Remember when planes were smoking? I’d say being able to smell it while on your balcony is a minor infraction, if an infraction at all. And I’m a NON-smoker. Grow up. You aren’t the only person on this cruise. And the fact that kids, teens, and adults have lost all common courtesy, is a much bigger infraction. Have a drink, relax, enjoy your cruise rather than worry about what is happening on the next balcony over. Noise, I can understand, but someone being in the great outdoors, having a cigarette which has so little effect on you or your enjoyment of anything… you really need the cruise because you are wound too tight. 109. Mary June 15th, 2011 @ 11:29 am Carnival tried the non smoking thing. They did not even allow the workers or customs officials to smoke while onboard. If you did smoke, you were put off at the first port to find your own way home. And you were charged for the soft goods in the cabin to be replaced. It didn’t last. They had a brand new boat and it only lasted a couple of years before they had to let the idea go. If Carnival can’t make it work, I don’t know how the others could. 110. Delmar Haynes June 15th, 2011 @ 11:33 am Wow, I can’t believe the crybaby non-smokers that think they deserve to control everyone elses life. I am in complete argeement with Kimberly03051. By the way, I am not a cigarette smoker. I paid my cruise fare the same as them, I work very hard for my money and pay for a balcony with the expectation that I will be able to enjoy a cigar when I am on vacation. 111. KenG June 15th, 2011 @ 11:36 am Before all of you demand that the cruise lines put non-smoking cruise ships on the seas, look to history. Carnival had a non-smoking/tobacco free cruise ship, the Paradise. It operated in the late 90′s early 00′s. It was taken out of service as a non-smoking ship several years ago and has been a “normal” cruise ship for several years now. The reason it was shut down as a non-smokung ship was that it was losing money. Non-smokers tend to be non-drinkers. Drinking, for all it’s other issues is a big money maker on the ship. To offset the lack of revenue they had to bump the price up. That meant fewer people booking, so there were more last minute “firesales” which typically meant more elderly passengers (retirees can go anytime and love firesales), which meant even less revenue as many of them don’t do shore excursions either (another big revenue draw). So until enough of you complaining about smokers are willing to pony up the extra cash to make up the lack of revenue, the best you can do is have your travel agent book you in the non-smoking cabin section. Disclaimer: We are not smokers and we have paid the premium to go on the Paradise while it was non-smoking. We hate second hand smoke we have made our peace with the fact that it is a necessary evil to keep the price down. 112. Bick June 15th, 2011 @ 11:36 am I would have thought more folks would have commented on loud sex on the balconies. Isn’t that noise polution just as disgusting as smoking??? I mean really – is it neccesary to say “oh yeah” 10 times in a row? 113. Tizzy June 15th, 2011 @ 11:54 am I had a very nasty experience on the Crown Princess when the person on the balcony above threw a cigar butt over the balcony. Whoever designed the cabins on the Princess Ships should be ‘shot’ Worst cabins I have ever encountered as there was absolutely no privacy and everyone on the top deck of the ship had a view of all the balconies below. For years I have wondered why one side of the ship couldn’t be used for smokers and the other side for non- smokers. 114. Glenn June 15th, 2011 @ 11:55 am I agree wrt the ignorant people who leave their outside light on…night after night. We even had to close our drapes. So much for waking up and seeing the ocean first thing. 115. JustWondering June 15th, 2011 @ 11:57 am Thank Goodness having sex does not rank on the list because my BF would be terribly upset. That’s his main reason for getting a balcony. 116. Cruiser D June 15th, 2011 @ 11:58 am Re: Gary K – we have had the bird issue with kids too. A call to front desk took care it. As far as smokers go, it can be downright annoying as well as harmful to health (and not just harmful for the smoker), so I appreciate those smokers who are polite and sensitive to this issue. I have yet to understand why smoking is allowed on balconies at all, especially if there are other areas on the ship. Security can address loudness of other passengers, but if smoking is allowed there’s little or nothing that can be done to ensure a pleasant vacation by both parties. I think the suggestions for designated smoking rooms, just like at hotels, would go a long way to help satisfy more passengers. Are the cruise lines listening? 117. milissa June 15th, 2011 @ 12:04 pm So I’ve been reading and I come acrossed Nancy’s comment about non-drinkers dont ask drinkers to not drink. Well my dear Nancy, if a drinker is going to spit their drink all over me while I am standing on my own private balconey, I am certainly not going to smile and relax because they have a right to to enjoy their time. That’s just nonsence. That being said, we paid extra for a balconey, we did not pay extra to keep the doors tightly closed the entire time because of the neighbor smoking. Seriously, why do they not close the doors of their cabin and smoke inside? BECAUSE,they cant stand the air..oh you can say the cruise line doesn’t allow it..but ask yourself why dont they allow smokers to smoke in their staterooms. It’s their right isn’t it? Why should they have to go outside because the cruiseline thinks it’s a fire hazard etc. C’mon they are on vacation, they paid for the room they should be allow to do whatever they want. Please…if a cruiseline will come up with a combo of balconey and view..like a opening window then I am sold. I enjoyed the concept of the balcony but was not able to use it do to the smokers. Thankfully my travel agent gave me a credit for another vacation with them. 118. milissa June 15th, 2011 @ 12:13 pm Oh and to clarify..I have no problem with smokers…puff away but why do I have to be subjected to YOUR second hand smoke..it’s not MY second hand smoke. Perhaps rooms could be designated as smoking or non-smoking then when I pick my room I can choose to be situated between 2 non-smoking rooms..or smoking balconys on one side non on the other? There has got to be a solution that makes everyone happy. 119. Sally Jo June 15th, 2011 @ 12:16 pm We sailed Celebrity Soltice and the smoke on our balconey was awful……cigar, weed and normal cigarettes at all hours 120. Louisa June 15th, 2011 @ 12:18 pm My 2 pennies worth my mum was diagnosed with late onset asthma @ the age of 40. She has never smoked in her life, my dad made up for it – she is now affected for the rest of her life as a result of 2nd hand passive smoking. So before all the smokers say get over it, live life and have a party, very difficult if you have to carry an oxygen bottle with you everywhere you go! Its not your right its all of us they dont enjoy it or are affected in someway. You choose the Cancer sticks, we dont. 121. Skye June 15th, 2011 @ 12:18 pm I had a guy in the next room stick his head around the corner of my balcony and start talking to see who I was without speaking first and asking if it was okay to peek. Later he wanted to check in our room to see how it compared to his. I thought both acts were kind of rude. 122. Chickodee June 15th, 2011 @ 12:19 pm You know what? I agree with Deezznuts -the balcony doors are extremely heavy and I can’t imagine “proping” them open for the ocean air to come in, the dampness off the water would cause anyone to have trouble breathing. Yes, as an ex-smoker I can see where it would bother some people but I also know that the balcony air is passing by at 20+knts. At least you can hang your head over the rail. Being inside where the smoke is trapped in the halls and cabins is far worse than a balcony. Been there. I especially liked the RV vacation for those that can’t tolorate kids, drinking, laughing, smoking, bad food, and not having their every whim catered to,- please don’t let them be on my next fun filled cruise. (Nov.27th) 123. Amy June 15th, 2011 @ 12:19 pm Sadly, we too experienced smokers on both sides of us on our last cruise. More offensive, our neighbor to the left squatted and peed on their balcony. If I hadn’t seen it with my own eyes (Hello, there’s a piece of reflective glass and I can SEE YOU.), I would have never believed it. The truth is, when you’re on a boat with 2000 other people, at least 10% of them are going to be idiots with no manners. I made peace with that before I got on board, and that was my very first cruise. 124. Randy Starner June 15th, 2011 @ 12:27 pm I can understand the offense at indoor smoke. Cigars are a legal and man-made product, like perfume. Cigar smoke on the back of a cruise ship moving at 20 knots should offend no one. The knowledge that someone might be enjoying a fine cigar is sufficient for many (more than I thought based on the comments above)to go overboard (overboard, get it?). I enjoy fine cigars on my balcony. If my smoke is wafting into someone else’s balcony, to their discomfort, I’ll go somewhere else. But, let’s be honest, most of you are offended at the presence of a cigar anywhere on the ship. Allow me to suggest that a mere awareness of the presence of tobacco does not constitute any personal offense or affront. I’m aware of your perfume in the elevator. I’m aware of your inappropriate swimwear. I’m aware of your sophomoric behavior after too many drinks. I’m aware of your children at dinner. I’m aware of your cigarette smoke (they ruin a great cigar). I may not enjoy the whiny kids, but someone’s parents and grandparents obviously do. I may not enjoy grandma’s perfume in the elevator, but, maybe grandpa does. I may not enjoy a cigarette while playing blackjack. I think your speedo is inappropriate, but, hey, if your significant other is impressed, who am I to judge? Think about whether you are offended because someone is blowing smoke in your face, or are you just part of a non-smoking majority that would sense no loss of liberty in depriving me of mine. Just remember, they are coming after your meat and midnight buffet next. 125. Adrian June 15th, 2011 @ 12:39 pm Great comments. The one that got me was a gentleman who pointed to his heart as he sat next to me in the casino and expected me to move because of the smoking. The one and only place that I would indulge. 126. DD June 15th, 2011 @ 12:47 pm It’s interesting how many people cite “everyone has a right to do as they wish” or “smokers’ rights” or the ever-paranoid “American’s rights.” What about the right to breath clean air? Unless I’m mistaken, that’s one right that we’re born with. If everyone has the right to do what they want, how come I don’t have my right to breath clean air? What makes it OK for smokers to take that away from me? You say that you’ve “earned” the right to smoke on vacation? So that means you also earned the right to make me smoke along with you? People who know that they are harming others, but are so weak or ashamed that they can’t accept it, get all defensive and start spouting about their rights. All the while they are really talking about a conscious choice that restricts the rights of everyone around them. Unfortunately, you can’t reason with unreasonable paranoia and the cruise lines don’t want to lose that demographic, so I vote for the two-sided ship. 127. Elroy Flom June 15th, 2011 @ 1:07 pm Smoking is the worst, and we experienced it on a trip to Alaska. There we were in Glacier Bay with the Captain saying we were experiencing the cleanest air in North America, and choking on the smoke from the cabin full of chain smokers on their balcony immediately forward of us. The Cruise Lines will have to address this sooner or later, because “outside” on these balconies is not exactly outside in the normal sense of the word, or the laws of most states today! Either they need to put all smokers aft of all non-smokers or ban it except on the tail fin. Someone in the industry needs to get a clue about this, or there will be law suits. 128. Divr June 15th, 2011 @ 1:07 pm This may have been suggested since I only read the first quarter of the comments due to time restraints. However, it would seem one solution if some of the ships would do as they do on the interior of the ships. That being restrict the smoking to either the port or starboard side of the ship. Surprising the impact it has on the comfort level within the ship. Even though there may be more than 50% of the passengers who choose not to smoke it does provide some relief for both sides. 129. Scott June 15th, 2011 @ 1:11 pm I find toxic personalities who turn up their wrinkly noses at everyones choice of pleasure that ISN’T THEIRS to be the most annoying thing on a cruise. 130. Nel June 15th, 2011 @ 1:16 pm I have never stayed in a balcony room and probably never will (unless it is an Alaskan cruise) as my husband and I don’t understand paying extra for a room to sleep in. We spend most of our time on deck somewhere. It sounds like it may be better for me not to have a balcony room. Sounds to me like the balconies should be treated the same as any other public place. People should use the same courteousies and respect that would be expected in any other public area such as the pool. Have people totally forgotten how to be courteous and how to behave in public? With that said, smoke makes me sick. I do not have asthma, but I do have allergies and am very sensitive to smoke. I am not a complainer about everything as one writer suggested we are; but if I stay in the vacinity of smoke, I end up with a sore throat and sinus infection. I would be very upset if I paid for a balcony room that I could not even go out on the balcony because breathing the smoke would make me sick. Smokers talk about their right to smoke on a balcony, what about a non-smoker’s right to breath air that will not make them sick. It is not as easy to switch rooms when you are next to a smoker as it is to switch chairs in a public area. There may be other troublesome behavior I don’t like; but I will not complain about it to anyone other than to notify the front desk of the problem and then go on my merry way to something more fun. 131. Vickie June 15th, 2011 @ 1:16 pm I am not a smoker but my husband is so we always get a balcony. He doesn’t smoke in our room and he doesn’t throw his butts overboard. Ppl must spend alot more time on their balonies then we do though because I couldn’t tell you what anyone on either side of us or up or down from us are doing. And I have never smelled smoke when walking down the halls. And no I am not desensitized to it because my husband doesn’t smoke in our house either. If he ever smells like smoke I tell him and he corrects the problem. I agree make one side smoking and the other non. Not sure what they would do with the casino though, my guess is lose money if it went non smoking. lol My big complaint is unattended kids at the pool who have been raised with no manners. Of course I would never have let my 7/8 yr olds be alone at a pool anyhow. We were on the Liberty in early May, thinking kids would still be in school, and there were about 8 boys none of them over 10 who took over the upper pool and everyone left. I couldn’t locate anyone to complain to or I would have. O well it was still a good cruise. lol 132. Tina June 15th, 2011 @ 1:17 pm After dealing with smokers on a 15 day cruise RT from LA to Hawaii on Princess, I hated having to deal with the smoke and weed smells. Our next cruise is with Oceania. Here is their policy according the their latest brochure: For the safety and security of all guests and staff onboard, Designated smoking Areas are available on the forward starboard corner of the Pool Deck and in the aft, port corner of Horizons. These areas are comfortably furnished and conveniently located near food and beverage areas. smoking is expressly forbidden in all staterooms and suites, on verandas, or in any areas of the ship other than officially Designated smoking Areas. smoking in a stateroom or suite or on a veranda represents a serious fire and safety hazard to all guests and staff. Guests choosing to disregard this policy will be disembarked at the next port of call and may also be subject to additional fees that will be imposed to cover the costs associated with any damage to and the required cleaning of furnishings, verandas and surrounding deck and accommodation areas. All areas other than those specified as Designated smoking Areas will remain smoke-free. This includes all guest suites and staterooms, verandas, restaurants, public areas, the Casino and all other areas of the ship. Cigar and pipe smoking is only permitted on the forward starboard corner of the Pool Deck. 133. Mary June 15th, 2011 @ 1:19 pm Milissa – why did your travel agent have to compensate you for the fact that there were smokers on the ship? Did they tell you there wouldn’t be? 134. Bibi June 15th, 2011 @ 1:24 pm I smoked for over 30 years and I, like Katherine, believed people were exaggerating when they said it smelled bad. Well Katherine, let me tell you…after being smoke free for 6 years, I can assure you that the reason you don’t smell it, is because you smoke!! It really is a disgusting smell and it really does affect the people around you. I do believe smokers have rights as do non-smokers and wish that some of them would be more considerate to others. That said, I believe it is the cruise lines’ responsibility to ensure that ALL their passengers are happy. Therefore, cruiselines, YOU need to take an active role in separating the smokers and non-smokers. Either smoking and non-smoking ships or, at the very least, as someone else said, designate an area of staterooms aft, to the enjoyment of smokers. Let their smoke trail BEHIND the ship and not into non-smokers spaces. I’m pretty sure that the cruiseline that does this first, will be inundated with happy passengers! 135. Artrina June 15th, 2011 @ 1:31 pm I know that smokers paid extra for their balcony just like I did. I think both groups have to be willing to think of their neighbor. Sorry, but, the speed of the ship may blow the smoke off your balcony, but, it has to go somewhere and much of it goes onto the balcony where I sit with my husband who has asthma. I have no problems with your smoking a few cigs a day on your balcony, but, if you chain smoke why don’t you go to a place with other smokers… If a smoker is spending all day on their balcony smoking they are NOT spending $$other places on the ship! I haven’t had a serious problem with a neighbor on a cruise, yet, but, if I ever do the first port I’ll go buy a BIG can of air freshener to spray your way. 136. Poet June 15th, 2011 @ 1:36 pm This issue will never be resolved. In business you have to make a profit and it has been proven that people who smoke, also spend a ton more money gambling, drinking and other vices. I do not smoke and in fact we get very ill smelling it for an extended period of time, however as a person that understands reality I beleive that criuse lines have to allow smoking. THEY HAVE NO CHOICE. I would make only 3 changes. One side of the ship’s balconies are non-smoking period for people who want to enjoy outside. One or Two decks completely non-smoking for those who can’t stand smoke. That leaves all other decks as smoking optional, except for the balcony on the non-smoking side. I would also insure that all eating areas are non-smoking…except for a steak/cigar/pipe type resturant. No smoking at the pool, but also have another pool which allowing smoking…..on a top deck so the smoke does not carry. 137. Marge June 15th, 2011 @ 1:47 pm Only about 20% of the population are smokers, but they’ve caused about 90% of the complaints on here. I think that smokers tend to be risk-takers in general and thus more likely to drink and gamble, so cruise lines love them since they make big bucks off them. (Have you ever won much in a ship casino? :)) The fact that they die sooner is irrelevant – there’s always another generation coming along, right? But I agree that these 20% should not make things miserable for so many others. Giving them 1/2 of the ship’s balconies as some suggest is way too much. Maybe the aft section on one side (about 25%) would be more than enough. I have given up and just stick with inside cabins. You still may have the smoke (illegal) in the halls drifting from someone else’s cabin and the screaming kids. But you don’t have to discover X-rated action via moonlight, smell smoke in your cabin, or listen to the coughing, hacking, fighting or noise outside. We save a bunch of money on inside cabins with less aggravation overall. Don’t really spend much time in the cabin anyway except to sleep. Been happy since switched since frustration of being unable to use what is paid for has disappeared. Just a thought. 138. Roger L June 15th, 2011 @ 1:51 pm To Nancy R I have no problems with smokers as long as they don’t exhale. Drinkers take drink of their beverage and keep in their mouth. Now if they were to take a drink swish it around and spray it out in a manor that would invaid other peoples area I have a feeling myself and others would have a problem with that. Same with gamblers, well actually different with gamblers, if they would buy some chips, hold them in their hand and then cast them out amoungst the people that would be okay. So my suggestion is to have smokers be allowed to inhale but when they get it they can’t spit it out. I have often wondered what a smoker would say if I took a drink of a martini and spit it out on them, somehow I think the fight would be on, yet they put a piece of paper in thier mouth, set it afire, inhale the toxins produced and then spit them out for others to have to inhale and think that is totally acceptable. 139. respectful traveller June 15th, 2011 @ 1:52 pm Wow. I can’t believe the animosity and lack of courtesy and respect of some of you! I live in a cosmopolitan city. I enjoy cocktails/wine and a very social life several times a week. I’m also a traveller. Although I’m 45, not exactly “old”, I have noticed as years go on that people are becoming ruder and more selfish, definitely with heightened “senses of entitlement”. By all means, have fun! After all, you are on vacation, but please be aware, look around and see how what you do might affect the people around. (Just try to “put the shoe on the other foot” and see how you would like it if you were the recipient of thoughtless behaviour). Shut the door gently on your way out. Teach your children not to run up and down hallways and slam doors, or to play in the hot tubs too long (also unsafe!). Speak quietly in the morning before 8am or after 11pm when walking down a corridor or sitting out on a balcony. Early risers respect the sleepers. Night owls respect the early risers. There are so many places on the ship to go to have your early morning chat, or your late night partying. Act like you would at home with your neighbours… As for the smoking, that is a tough one. I quit five years ago and never realized how pungent the odor was and how it clings to everything and stays there. Now the smell really bothers me. I have a neighbor who smokes on occasion, and believe it not, even when he is outside, even when it is windy, the smoke comes into my home through the windows and permeates my home! But I also respect the fact that he chooses to smoke. He’s a great guy and what am I going to do about it? It’s his prerogative. That said, I would certainly be unhappy if I were to have a balcony and have smoke come into my room. I think that the solution of having smokers on one side of the ship is a good one. The “boring, complaining, non-drinking, non-partiers with puckered prune faces” can stay on their side of the ship. (because really, if you don’t smoke you certainly can’t know how to party and you must be old!) I appreciate all the comments. I was sitting on the fence about taking a cruise, and now realize that it is not for me. Unfortunately I would be unhappy to travel with fellow passengers like some of the people who have responded here. Instead I will look at chartering a smaller vessel with a bunch of friends. 140. Cherub Goodstory June 15th, 2011 @ 2:10 pm I don’t smoke. I smell smoke on my balcony. I somehow manage to have a good time anyway. It’s hard to imagine a group of people who try harder than cruise-goers to find something bad about something so good. This is a real whiney bunch. 141. Moby9 June 15th, 2011 @ 2:13 pm Lots of good suggestions here to get around the offensive smell of tobacco to others. I hope the cruise lines read these boards. 142. Mary June 15th, 2011 @ 2:21 pm Just received this from Princess Cruises. It is being sent out to all travel agents. Thought it might be timely information for everyone to have. ============================================= Dear Travel Professional, As part of our ongoing commitment to ensuring that every passenger has a comfortable onboard experience, Princess Cruises will be introducing more restrictive smoking policies, and will prohibit smoking in passenger staterooms and balconies for all voyages departing after January 15, 2012. Countries around the world from North America to Europe are moving to more restrictive smoking policies and our latest consumer studies show that smokers are a small minority of our passengers. In fact, the vast majority of cruisers value having their primary living space (both stateroom and balcony) smoke-free. As you know, balconies are a hallmark of Princess Cruises and we believe it is important to keep this peaceful space clear of smoke. Violations to this policy will result in a 250 fine for each occurrence, which will be charged to the passenger’s stateroom account. Keeping with the global trend and honoring the wishes of our passengers, we feel this change will enhance our onboard experience and do more to help our passengers escape completely. Of course we still welcome passengers who smoke, and will continue to provide convenient smoking areas throughout each ship, including cigar lounges, a section of the nightclub and casino, and a portion of the open decks. ============================================= 143. Anne June 15th, 2011 @ 2:24 pm The price of a balcony on a cruise is usually too expensive for me but due to good deals and an upgrade I have recently enjoyed two cruises with a balcony. Having one for a Transatlantic crossing was a Godsend. Both times I was lucky.No smoking allowed and no boorish behaviour both of which I abhor. Yes the Italian lady next door could talk for Italy and loudly . Hubby rarely got a word in. But if people are fighting , using foul language or breaking smoking rules , surely ship security should deal with it especially with fire hazard of discarded cigarettes blowing back onto ship and surely shore police could be brought onboard to deal with the drug users? No wonder forum readers are now put off cruising. As for the comment about text etiquette, I am well aware that using capitals is deemed as ‘shouting’ and therefore ‘rude’ but it always makes me ponder who decided this to be the case, why everyone using this technology follow this dictat and why people get so incensed about all capitals use.More things to get angry about in this life. See aforementioned : DRUNKEN LOUTS, FOUL MOUTHED BOORS and SMOKEIN MY FACE! 144. Ed June 15th, 2011 @ 2:29 pm Where is it written that I have to be courteous? I don’t go out of my way to be dis-courteous but if I had to spend my whole life investigating what the preferences and acceptable conventions each and every person that I come in contact with finds inmportant, I would drive myself insane. Face it, a lot of people are just bat hit crazy, and I am ok with that. But as an ambassador from the land of the sane I would like to say that while I will not ever intentionally offend anyone, I will also not be terribly disquieted by the fact that what I am doing is offending you. 145. sally sue June 15th, 2011 @ 2:39 pm smoking? really thats your biggest beef. How about kids running up and down the hallways. or drunk underage spring breakers making complete asses of themselves. C’mon, you can do better than that. I am a smoker as is my sister. we may not be the norm but we try to be considerate of those around us. That being said We have paid for our room just as you did. So here is my suggestion. All children under the age of 12 are to be kept to the rear. If mom and dad want to eat with them go sit at the childrens table. Only smokers allowed on the lido between the hours of 8 am and 6 pm. Then when we go to sit on our balcony at night you will be busy elsewhere. These are not common sense solutions but neither are the ones that i have seen posted here. Deal with it. This is our vacation just as it is yours. God I hope you dont plan on wearing that red door parfume again. I lingers in the elevators for 30 mins. after your exit. oh one more thing….please bring a cover up. I am offended by the women that think Just because they sell it “in your size” means that you should wear it. I dont care to see your dimple cottage cheese and sags. 146. Sue June 15th, 2011 @ 2:48 pm Cigar/cigarette smoke? I don’t smoke, but I don’t have a problem with those who do, especially on their balcony. Get over it, people..there will always be smokers. For every smoker, there is some annoying gum cracker, and usually much more rude than smokers when you ask them to stop!! As for the man who said people smoke 24/7…impossible. Why are you on a cruise if you are in your room 24/7? My pet peeve is those who think everyone likes their choice of music or a TV show, use earphones and turn the TV down. Enjoy the peace and quiet. And please, no sex on the balcony..CLASSLESS.. or loud talking. We can hear just about everything you know…Last but not least….were you raised in a barn? Slamming doors???? Would it kill you to hold the door until it closes QUIETLY instead of letting it slam???? This goes for hotels also. That is so RUDE…..Stay next to me I will let you know it. I will always ask you first to hold down the noise before I call a steward to ask you, and if I make you mad, think of the free credit I will get towards my next cruise because of your bad behavior!!!! 147. Elaine June 15th, 2011 @ 2:48 pm I only book a balcony on the large boats so that we can eat breakfast there. However, I have been on too many cruises where people are using the balcony to entertain their friends after they come back after 2:00AM. While we don’t go to sleep early, we don’t want to be woken up by loud voices and laughter in the middle of the night. It is usually accompanied by endless slamming of the cabain doors and is very rude. Smoking can also be a turnoff but if the people are quiet, I would prefer them as neighbors. The best thing might just be to book outside cabins without balconies. I also wonder how dangerous smoking is anywhere aboard a ship but especially in cabins or on balconies. 148. Andy June 15th, 2011 @ 3:03 pm I am truly appalled at the attitude of entitlement of most smokers. I don’t understand their characterization of those individuals who do voice their problem with second hand smoke, as being fault finding, judgmental people who don’t know how to have a good time. I LOVE to have a good time. We are fun-loving, sociable, friendly people, who do not push ourselves on others. Why do smokers with a bad attitude always say………Live and let live……..and I paid my hard money for a cruise, I should enjoy it too. NON-smokers want the same thing, but YOUR choices are infringing on MY enjoyment. What I have noticed on this thread is that many people have the solution that NON-smokers should not take a cruise, but buy an RV, or go to a land vacation, or get a private yacht. Other solutions are to designate half of the ship for smokers, and if there is not cabins available for the non-smokers, for them just to live with it. Aren’t smokers in the minority????? I thought the numbers are like 20% (totally undocumented). So why don t SMOKERS buy an RV, go on a land vacation, get a private yacht? Why designate 50% of the cabins for smokers, rather than let’s say 20%, and if THEY can’t get a cabin in smoking……….refrain from smoking. Sure, there are many obnoxious behaviors of both smokers and non-smokers. The meism of smokers just gets to me. FACT – Second hand smoke is dangerous and offensive to others (look how many responded that it IS a problem – oh yes I forgot – these are just bitter people with nothing better to do). FACT – Smokers just don’t realize HOW offensive they are. Just look at the posts by ex-smokers who now realize it. Again………it’s the attitude of ANYONE with offensive behavior that drives me nuts! I’m all for mankind……its people I can’t stand. Not really! I do like people, just not inconsiderate, self-centered, “entitled” people. 149. Jeff D June 15th, 2011 @ 3:15 pm After reading this today, I got an email from Carnival telling me about their new fleet wide smoking policy changes. Partly in effect today, and the rest in effect Dec. 1. From the email: “We recently conducted guest surveys covering a wide range of topics. The feedback we received indicated the overwhelming majority of our guests prefer a smoke-free environment. In fact, nearly 90 percent of our guests are non-smokers, with only less than five percent opting to smoke in their staterooms.” 150. Senior in Seattle June 15th, 2011 @ 3:27 pm We have had our balcony experience ruined repeatedly by smokers. Last cruise in April on the Celebrity Infinity–Smoking banned on balconies. Hooray!! Now if more would follow suit……….. 151. Masq June 15th, 2011 @ 3:29 pm Yep, Carnival’s new policy is going to make the Balcony situation worse. Don’t get me wrong… I am really happy about the new policy as I also have asthma and can not tolerate the second hand smoke. Even now… I only book a balcony room if I can get the very first one on the deck…. hoping the smoke will blow back when we are moving. Most likely, I will stick with Oceanview rooms once the policy goes into effect. It will be interesting to see if/when the other cruise lines follow suit. They will probably wait to see how it goes for Carnival. 152. angus miller June 15th, 2011 @ 3:42 pm we have had balcony rooms and the most complaints we have is with smokers and loud people the most annoying was on the last one with HAL statendam there was area at the blunt end of the ship which was a water type park with fountains etc but it was also used as the smoking area which meant a lot of people could not used it smokers are a dying breed so let us non smokers have rights too 153. Ken W June 15th, 2011 @ 3:43 pm Sorry folks but smokers have the exact same rights as you do. You might not like it but they do. They are there to enjoy the same vacation aspects you are. Yet they have to put up with your rude teen or crying kids. Your rude attitude, your bad choice of clothing or lack there of. They put up with all of your whining and complaining about every single aspect of your cruise.. They put up with everything about YOU.. You loud walk down the hallways, your speaking during the shows. Deal with it! For the record I AM NOT A SMOKER.. nor is my wife.. 154. Patrick June 15th, 2011 @ 3:45 pm Andy, if it was profitable to run a fully non-smoking cruise – they would exist. The reson the attempts have failed is they are not profitable. It is this same reason that none of the Vegas Casinos have gone smoke-free – they would lose money. If you want smoking to be made illegal, fine. Write your congressman. As long as it is legal, then you have to expect it to happen in both public and private places. 155. Mike Cambell June 15th, 2011 @ 3:53 pm I work for the EPA. Have you ever driven in a car with the windows down in heavy traffic. I can tell you the exhaust fumes you are breathing in are far worse than second hand cigarette smoke. Why don’t you know this. What’s the point in telling the public? Unlike smoking which you can regulate, what would be the solution — ban cars like smoking? You don’t believe me – look up the carcinogens in car exhaust vs. cigarette smoke. Now I grant you the situations are not the same, but do you get on here and rant about the smoke belching car or truck you had to ride behind for x number of miles on your last vacation. I agree there needs to be courtesy by both sides when it comes to any behavior, but here it seems like all you have are the \intolerant\ on one side and \in your face\ on the other. Seems to me if both sides just were considerate of each other and more polite about the situation the comments would be much less venomous and acromonious. 156. Judie June 15th, 2011 @ 3:53 pm As a seasoned travel club director and smoker I can see the perfect solution being totally smoking/non smoking sides of the ships with equal facilities on both sides except for inside dining and show areas. When I led groups the easier passengers were always the more flexible, congenial smokers. The virulent nonsmokers were the worst complainers about everything. Years ago smoking was not a problem because most of the ship was fresh air. We did not need balconies and certainly would keep our private acitivities private. Cruises were mostly for adults so the wild, undiciplined children were not a problem. The music was quieter and the food more elegant. The problem with todays ships are they are too big as well as closed in and the ONLY feeling that you are at sea is on the balconies. I miss the real experience of sitting by the pool with the ocean breezes wafting over you with fresh air. Smoking was not a problem then. If the ships were totally non smoking, many people would joing me on a different vacation venue. By the way, I had a sister inlaw who would not allow smoking anywhere near her and she died of massive cancer 36 years ago at the age of 51. 157. Chris A June 15th, 2011 @ 3:54 pm Wow, again, another indication of the type of folks that cruise. Just like the dressing-up “debate” many feel the need to judge and impose their beliefs upon a wide swath of people. I don’t smoke, but I don’t mind the smell terribly as long as it’s not pervasive (all day, every day). As far as I know, Royal Caribbean (my cruise line of choice) has a smoking and non-smoking side of the ship. For those who book on the wrong side, I can only blame you for being ill-informed. For those who feel the need to be so judgmental, don’t forget that you likely do things that annoy the hell out of people too. Live and let live is my approach; engage people if you’re really bothered rather by what they’re doing rather than venting your frustrations on an anonymous internet board. I wonder how all of you survived when smoking was pervasive in society (here in NC it was only banned 1.5 years ago; I admit it’s MUCH nicer going out to bars/restaurants, but it wasn’t terribly bad before). Everyone’s got to complain about something I guess. 158. Gene June 15th, 2011 @ 3:56 pm Rights? There is no right to pollute others’ airspace. As for the dude who does not believe that others can smell his smoke, then he’s been smoking so long that he’s lost his sense of smell. 159. Jackie Priess June 15th, 2011 @ 3:58 pm I am totally amazed how many pet peeves there are out there. We recently took our first cruise on Carnival – during spring break. There was not one thing I can think of to complain about! Service was excellent – plenty of chairs on deck even though there were lots of people. We had a balcony room – no peepers, no loud music or talking, just a thoroughly wonderful trip. I just wonder what people complain about when they are home? Guess I am just a glass half full type person – I enjoy myself wherever I am. 160. Terri June 15th, 2011 @ 4:01 pm How about POT SMOKERS??? Yes, that’s right. On our last cruise every time we went out on the balcony on at-sea days, a neighbor somewhere close was getting high! 161. Kevin June 15th, 2011 @ 4:16 pm As a current non-smoker who smoked 2-3 packs a day for 25 years, I did not realize the impact of smoking among others until long after I quit. It is very much an impact on others that do not smoke, and if I had it to do over I would have never smoked in the house or in the vehicle, and certainly never in public areas where non-smokers are. The balcony smoke does invade the rooms around and the solution offered by one previous person, one side aft would solve the issue. You could even have both sides aft if there was enough demand, but down wind is the key. 162. Lisa June 15th, 2011 @ 4:17 pm I agree with the non-smokers. There should not be any smoking in any enclosed area. On the Celebrity there is an area that is partially covered around the pool area. People can smoke in some of those areas but the non smokers still have to walk through that area. The only place smokers shuld be smoking is complete outdoors. I even couldnot go through to the Theatre this last cruise without smelling smoke on the outside of the theatre. I would not recommend having sex on the balconies. They are NOT all PRIVATE. We could sit in the dining area and look down on people’s balconies. 163. Scott June 15th, 2011 @ 4:17 pm Maybe they could just tow a barge behind the ship so that no one will die from the occasional whiff of my fine cigar. Who told you people that life had no rough edges and everything was always going to please your entitled selves? It doesn’t matter HOW far off in the corner of a park I go to enjoy my Kindle and a fine cigar, SOMEONE will give me the stink eye FROM 50 YARDS AWAY! AND sometimes some poor unsuspecting and doomed soul will wander too close to where I tried to courteously quarantine myself and say “wow! that reminds me of baseball games with my grandad” or “nice cigar”. Some people actually like the smell of wafting cigar smoke…and some don’t. I don’t particularly want to live in a perfectly sanitized world, but that’s me. I have tried to be polite about my cigar hobby, but it just doesn’t matter to some. 164. joannlovestocruise June 15th, 2011 @ 4:21 pm to all: ain’t life grand!!! 165. Adam B. June 15th, 2011 @ 4:25 pm Having taken about a dozen cruises over the last 20 years starting when I was in my early 20′s and still in the USAF, I would consider myself a seasoned cruiser, so here are my comments: First, I only smoke cigars, and as most cigar smokers only smoke once or twice a day, even on vacation, a cigar smoker probably won’t bother a no-smoker with an adjacent balcony as much as a regular cigarette smoker unless you both happen to always want to be out at the same exact time. However, except for one small, older ship I was on during a short cruise out of Florida, every other ship I’ve been on has had a cigar bar / lounge. If I smoke 10 cigars on a cruise, 7 of them will be in the cigar bar because it usually is the nicest, most intimate of the bars on the ship because only smokers, mostly cigar smokers, go there. They usually have drinks you can’t readily get on other parts of the ship (like port wine). Next, two big tips: If you really, really enjoy smoking all the time, spend your money at an all-inclusive resort in the Dominican Republic or Jamaica (or really wherever in the Caribbean). You can pretty much smoke ANYWHERE. In the DR a shop owner gave me a cigar and my brother-in-law and I smoked in and out of every shop we went into with our wives for the next hour. I like cruises and all the activities they offer plus a variety of stops to see different places but if you want to relax, have fun, and not be quite as cramped, go the all-inclusive route. Second: If you are booking a balcony, whether you are a smoker or not, ask if there is a room in your class at the BACK of the ship. 1) It’s a lot more private than any other balcony; 2) It’s much bigger than the other balconies in the class you are booking, basically instead of 2 chairs and a table we had those plus two lounge chairs and plenty of room to walk around as well. 3) When leaving each port, you get a SICK look at the place you just visited retreating into the distance, you will not get a better view on either side no matter whether you are forward or aft. I think it’s sad that cruise lines would ban smoking altogether, but balcony room blocks on one side of the ship designated as smoking and no smoking in most public areas would be OK I guess. Some people only smoke when they’re on vacation, this probably goes double for cigar smokers, and their enjoyment of their vacation dollar shouldn’t be reduced entirely. 166. Peter G June 15th, 2011 @ 4:29 pm After reading all of these, there appears to be several trends of thought. First, the non-smokers don’t mind smokers per se, they just dislike the habit when its practice interferes with their health and pleasure. Therefore, smokers are asked not to smoke anywhere that smoke will bother others. Second, so many smokers become defensive and take the offense: “get over it, smokers will always be around, stay home, get an RV, non-smokers have no fun, are dried-up”, etc. Third, the second trend exposes a group which is selfish, discourteous, and not too intelligent. There is no reason why a boat cannot be treated as an airplane re: smoking. 167. Dave June 15th, 2011 @ 5:03 pm How can you blame a smoker for smoking on his own balcony? When you booked the cruise, didnt you know the smokers would want the balconies? Blame the cruise line for not having a non smoking section, and blame yourself for booking it anyway. 168. james s. June 15th, 2011 @ 5:17 pm i have been on several cruises and the only time i have ever seen smoke “billowing”(as one poster said) onto other balconies was while docked in port. i am a smoker, but i respect others and only smoke on the aft of the ship in the designated smoking areas. BUT, i’ll make you “ladies” a deal, i will continue to refrain from smoking on my balcony, if you will refrain from wearing the nasty perfume that pollutes the hallways and elevators that lingers for what seems to be hours after you “waft” thru…deal? 169. dokey June 15th, 2011 @ 5:27 pm OK, I’m a Smoker God forgive me for getting “hooked on them”. I guess you people never went out to bars filled with smoke? Maybe your hermits? As a smoker, I try to respect people who do not smoke and will go somewhere else to smoke when possible. So just deal with it! They do have ships that are ALL NON SMOKING that you can go on you know! 170. Angie June 15th, 2011 @ 5:27 pm I hate the smell of smoke but what I hate more is people monitoring what another person is doing on their vacation. We live in a world where smokers exist, we can’t ban them from the world. Yes, it’s annoying but not as annoying as everyone complaining about it ALL the time. They paid as much as anyone else for their cabin and should have the right to enjoy it. People get this cabin category specifically because they want to smoke outside. 171. dokey June 15th, 2011 @ 5:28 pm BRAVO SCOTT!! 172. John Toni June 15th, 2011 @ 5:33 pm Carolyn, I think the “private verandah” photo you included with your article says it all. One thing you don’t “usually” have to deal with on your VERANDAH is the lounge chair hog issue. I’m surprised no one has mentioned hearing those shocking “When Harry Met Sally” sounds eminating from balconies as an irratent! I’ve seen several questions about this movie title topic on CC. This is not Vegas baby; what happens on a cruise ship doesn’t stay on the cruise ship and could very well go viral! How about the smoke in the casino? 173. JP June 15th, 2011 @ 6:13 pm My husband and I have been on 7 cruises, 4 of of which had balconies. We really have not had an extremely bad experience with people smoking or being loud. Yes people have smoked, yes people did get loud but we either stepped back inside when they were smoking and the folks that were talking loudly were outside for just a short time. I probably have done something to annoy my neighbors, like leaving the light on all night (accidently). I love to be up early in the morning and sit with my coffee and watch the ocean go by, watch for whales, dolphins etc as well. I try very hard to be quiet so as not to disturb my neighbors BUT if the people next to me have been obnoxious, then I don’t try very hard. If they don’t know that pushing the chair across the deck is annoying especially when you’re trying to sleep, then I let them know what it is like by giving them a quick \jolt\. Most people \get it\ after I have raised the TV’s volume for a short time or shut the door. If you are as quiet as a mouse, the neighbor just might think that their room IS sound proof. I learned alot after taking a couple of cruises how to behave once you experience what living on a ship is like. 174. Andy June 15th, 2011 @ 6:16 pm Patrick………. I just re-read my post. Where did you get the idea I was advocating a smoke-free cruise. I know that would not be a viable business situation. You also state that if it was bad, it would be illegal and to contact my congressman. It IS illegal in almost all public venues that I know of. Hotels have non-smoking rooms, if not smoke-free hotels. We are now addressing the issue on cruise ships. I’m just asking for fairness. I am NOT saying all people should just quit. That is their choice. WHERE they smoke becomes an issue for anyone that has to breathe in other peoples smoke. Just got an e-mail from Princess that states that any smoking in cabins or balconies will result in a 250 fine per occurrence. So…..I guess you CAN smoke on balconies…..its up to you. Just figure in the cost of the fine. Again……..I DO have better things to do. I do NOT tend to be judgemental. I DO like to have a good time. I just don’t get the ATTITUDE of those that feel they can do any obnoxious behavior, and that even if it infringes on the health or enjoyment of others, that the COMPLAINERS are all wrong, and just need to shut their pie holes and get a life. I Just don’t get it !?!? 175. Ken T June 15th, 2011 @ 6:35 pm As smoker’s have no respect for their own health and well being how can you expect them to respect other people’s requirememts. 176. JP June 15th, 2011 @ 6:35 pm I am a non-smoker. I see suggestions from folks to keep smokers on one side of the ship (for those in balcony rooms)and non-smokers on the other side. Problem is that, if it is true that only 20% of the population smokes and the rest do not, the ship would have alot of empty balcony rooms, and the shipping company certainly doesn’t want that. So what is the solution? They would have to end up putting a bunch of non-smokers in those empty rooms next to the smokers anyhow…so much for a non-smoking side of the ship. It is really hard to separate smokers from non-smokers, so the only logical solution is for all of us to be considerate of each other. If you don’t smoke and hate being near smoke, plan your trip accordingly. Stay out of the areas that are meant for smokers. Smokers, try to be considerate and don’t smoke where you are asked not to. Not all non-smokers are boring people and not all smokers are a–holes. For me my biggest issue is people in the middle of the night 2 or 3 am yelling and laughing in their room. If you want to party, go out to the disco’s and bars…they are open for exactly that…so go and have fun!! Who wants to party in a 9×9 box…not me! 177. Lara June 15th, 2011 @ 6:37 pm Carnival does post on its website which side of the ship the smoking areas are on. If you get a balcony on that side of the ship, don’t be surprised if there are smokers. 178. Brian June 15th, 2011 @ 6:59 pm Smoking sucks! Period! Fifty years ago it was alright. Today anyone with a brain knows it is bad for them and bad for the people who have to breath around them. Make no mistake, you can smell cigarette or cigar smoke on open decks and certainly on balconies when a neighbor is smoking. I don’t suffer from drinkers in less then get in my face but I know how to take care of that. Farters in an elevator are morons but I have no problem with telling them that. Nobody ever got asthma or lung problems from farts. Don’t compare that stuff with smoking that is a known carcingen. 179. Mary June 15th, 2011 @ 7:03 pm I will be on my first cruise in a few weeks (AK) and have booked a balcony handicap cabin. I am a non smoker with asthma and I am NOT a confrontational person. I think the smoking issue is a hot topic and can see both sides but because second hand smoke is a health issue I lean more for the non smokers. However I agree, we have all paid our hard earned money for a balcony and each of us should be able to enjoy it. So my question to a smoker is this: if we are balcony neighbors and I am having a problem with smoke what would you consider a respectful way let you know so that we could work out a compromise without having hard feelings or feeling insulted? How would you approach me if I was talking too loud or my music or TV was too loud? As for any other of the topics (kids/noise/perfume) they are not effecting my health so I live with it. I am only concerned about the things that will make me sick and how we can both enjoy all aspects of our vacations having to give in completely. Thanks for an any constructive suggestions 180. Mary June 15th, 2011 @ 7:07 pm Post 178: 2nd to last sentence should read “WITHOUT” having to give in completely. 181. Scott June 15th, 2011 @ 7:21 pm I’m a vegetarian and can’t stand the sad smell of animal flesh being roasted in backyard bbq’s, let alone having to breath in the dead smoky molecules of their abhorant deaths. Therefore, nobody else can enjoy it either…. …and so it goes… 182. Shiree June 15th, 2011 @ 7:21 pm Before we departed my balcony neighbors were loud. I politely went to their door and introduced myself as their neighbor and told them I was their neighbor. I wanted to introduce myself so if I’m loud or anything they can come directly to me instead of reporting me. That way I got to see who was next door and get a feel of the situation. I didn’t have to ask them to keep it down at all after that. On the other side I did the same thing and saw it was an elderly couple who I extended the same courtsey but it also let me know that I need to either wear my head set or keep my music down except for the day we were docked. I think it helps when people put a name and a face to who they will be disturbing. You might also make new friends. I didn’t, but then on that particular cruise no one was really friendly until the last day. 183. mayonie June 15th, 2011 @ 7:22 pm I dont’ smoke and seldom drink. This doesn’t make me a better person than others, it’s just me enjoying my FREEdom to chose. I’m wondering if all the complainers have no bad habits and feel this gives them the right to B____! How can you say that drinking doesn”t affect others? How many nondrinkers have died because of second hand drinking[car accidents] I bet records will show that more people die from this than your misguided fear of death from second hand smoke.I find it much easier to avoid smoking areas than I do drunken drivers. I beleive I have also farted in public places and peed in swimming pools, slamed a door and left a light on while talking and laughing too loud!!! Oh my I guess that makes me human. Please try not to cruise with me and all my fellow vulgar humans! 184. Spiffy June 15th, 2011 @ 7:45 pm I am feeling very good about my choice of inside cabin on just about every cruise I take. I am so rarely in my room, it never matters to me. I didn’t realize how stress free my inside cabin was. Thank you everyone for the insights 185. Don June 15th, 2011 @ 7:51 pm My wife and I are both smokers and will go onto our balcony for a smoke and enjoy it everytime. We also DO use and empty the ashtray so the stale smell and ashes do not fly around. We DO try to notice if anyone happens to be on the balcony next to us and use courtousy towards them. We DO find it annoying when a woman has lost her sense of smell and wears a bottle of perfume instead of showering daily. We DO find it annoying when doors are slammed. We DO find it annoying when drunks talk loudly or late into the evening. We DO find it annoying that small children and even large ones yell and scream and run wild. However we DO NOT call these people names or riducule their lifestyle or overly complain about anything possible. We DO cruise often and always have a balcony room and always enjoy ourselves just as everyone else who is on vacation should be DOING. We are considerate to others, follow the rules, and DO pay the same as everyone else to have the right to DO or not DO as we please. Please stop all the complaining and bickering about life or it will pass you by. 186. Lynn June 15th, 2011 @ 7:55 pm Yeah….just posted….. moot point for us Princess cruisers… beginning Jan 15, 2012 NO SMOKING in cabins or balconies!!! I guess they Listened! Thank you PRINCESS!! 187. whatmorecanyousay June 15th, 2011 @ 7:56 pm People who cruise often know the lines well and usually book according to their needs. Those who need a brawling and chaotic event know the line and even specific ships. Those who desire peace, good meals and manners will book the lines that still dress up for certain events. Most times some of these better choices are only a fraction more and they do not nickel and dime you because you are a captured group. Only the experienced know then they are being bilked onboard. Choose carefully and read reviews. If you are traveling with Children do not go cheap. Go safe. 188. mzakzoe June 15th, 2011 @ 7:59 pm All smoking is disgusting. But especially cigars, they smell vile and rank, and the smell lingers and infests the entire area or room. To the guy who got a free cigar while shopping in the DR and then proceeded to smoke the vile looking/smelling thing for an hour while he shopped, yiiikes!! Obviously he has no regard for his fellow shoppers or the stores or markets he stunk up. Ban all cigars first as they are the worst and most offensive. 189. Ed N. June 15th, 2011 @ 8:07 pm With more than 50 cruises in my records, I’ve seldom booked a balcony after the first time because of smoking, loud talking, and slamming doors. It’s not worth it. And it is mostly older people (over 55) who are the worst offenders. (I’m 71.) 190. Jimmy June 15th, 2011 @ 8:09 pm I say that all the smokers take the Stbd side of the ship, all the non-smokers take the Port side of the ship, and all of us having sex and the time of our lives will take the Aft part of the ship. So when we are not having sex we can watch the balcony below. I also want to give a shout out to our balcony fan club, thanks for watching, it made it even better!!!! 191. Cooper June 15th, 2011 @ 8:22 pm Wow, pretty much this whole discussion has been dominated by smoking. I’m a little surprised, I thought there would be more pet peeves than just smoking. I’ve had the unfortunate experience of having a room next to some nymphomaniacs. Probably newlyweds. But they were at it all the time. In the room. And outside on the balcony. ALL THE TIME. They had no shame. I’d be outside on the balcony and they would just come right out there and go at it. I was even once on the rail admiring the sunset. They knew I was there because the woman backed herself up against the rail and we exchanged eye contact, or at least she saw my eyes looking at her well endowed chest. But still continued on. I think they were French. But obviously comfortable in their own sexuality and seemingly didn’t seem to care that I was out there. I found it amusing at first, but by the end of our 10 day cruise, I was pretty darn frustrated… 192. heather June 15th, 2011 @ 8:40 pm @Amy …Peed on their balcony? Oh my! To whoever wrote that getting an aft facing balcony would solve the smoke drifting next door: You are incorrect. My balcony on the last cruise was totally unusable by a couple who seemingly never left their room at all. They smoked all day and night. Not once did I go out there that they were not there smoking. And the hallway surrounding their room reeked! I had to use my asthma pump several times a day. I’m not trying to take anyone’s rights away however I am trying to prevent further damage to my lungs by avoiding 2nd hand smoke. Does that mean that I should be relegated to the inside/oceanview rooms? No. I think a nice compromise would be port=smoking, starboard= non-smoking. Then everyone could choose for themselves. 193. Dave June 15th, 2011 @ 8:41 pm How about waking up finding puke all over your railing from the guest above? Just finished a 7 day eastern on Carnival Valor, go Carnival! 194. GGRiff63 June 15th, 2011 @ 8:50 pm While I only smoke on the lido deck or the casino.It seems the non smokers are saying , you can’t enjoy the balcony, because I am.I never knew you couldn’t smoke in your room, until,I read it in a forum,never even smelled it in a room,I’m sure non smokers couldn’t as well , but when they found out all hell breaks loose, have read post of people saying they couldn’t breath because of the smell etc.Carnival had a slanted survey that only 10% of cruisers smoke of that only 5 % smoked in their rooms,what are the odds of going into a cabin that has been smoked in, where you can smell it? Carnival had a smoke free ship, had to change the policy , because they were losing money. 195. Kevin Kintzi June 15th, 2011 @ 8:58 pm I hate to tell you that the US Constitution grants “life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness” to all citizens. I am alive because of smoking a cigarette and I take my right to smoke very, very seriously, Carnival gave up their totally non smoking ship due to all of the non smokers sitting in the deck chairs and looking grumpy, They wouldn’t spend any money in the bars, casino or on shore excursions. I smoke wherever and whenever I feel like it and dare someone to give me a ticket…so far no one has so I can’t get all smoking restrictions declared as unconstitutional. 196. Mary June 15th, 2011 @ 9:01 pm Shiree this is exactly the type of suggestion I was looking for. Such a simple thought but it never occured to me. This way I can ask them to please let me know if something I am doing is a bother. Thank you. 197. betsy June 15th, 2011 @ 9:02 pm Missive titled: \How Should You Behave on a Cruise Ship Balcony\. Nice try. It should have been titled: \How to Bash Smokers on Cruiseships That DARE to Allow Them!\. I read most of the comments. I quit because they were so outlandish. And the person who commented about Celebrity casinos being less than half full was totally correct. They are like ghost towns – no smoking allowed. Interesting that in the article on the home page of Cruise Critic does not even mention Celebrity when pointing out cruiselines that do NOT allow smoking on balconies or in staterooms. This has been their policy since October, 2008!! 198. Jim J June 15th, 2011 @ 9:15 pm I agree with past postings, if you want the perfect cruise, hire yourself a yacht. 199. Steve June 15th, 2011 @ 9:20 pm We’ve been considering our first cruise and I somehow wound up here reading this thread. If you whiney folks, smokers and non-smokers alike, are typical of cruisers, we think we’ll stick with the airlines. Confined to such a small space with a bunch of self-absorbed jerks for a week is not my idea of a vacation. 200. John S June 15th, 2011 @ 9:23 pm All this talk about \smokers’ rights\ is asinine. Smokers do not have a legally protected right to smoke, so it is legal for any property owner to restrict smoking on premises as they see fit. Don’t take my word for it, by all means, look it up. Smokers have no right to smoke on cruise ships, nor anywhere else on any property that they do not own. If they are permitted to smoke on balconies or in other designated areas, it is by the grace of others, and they should conduct themselves with befitting courtesy and gratitude. They certainly shouldn’t be prancing around with an attitude problem and an entitlement complex. I would encourage anyone bothered by inconsiderate smokers to bring it to the attention of the cruise line staff. The more man-hours they are forced to waste playing babysitter to smokers who can’t be considerate, the greater the cruise line’s incentive will be to actually solve this problem, one way or another. 201. Kim June 15th, 2011 @ 10:02 pm From an ex-smoker, consider this: While I understand smokers have the right to smoke when and where the cruiseline allows, I admit I’ve obviously been LUCKY that none of my neighbors on my previous six cruises has smoked on their balcony when my family has been out there! I have a family member that can only be off oxygen at sea level, so it would be definitely negatively impact our cruise to have to tolerate smoke from a neighbor! I’m shocked! – not so much at the smokers, but the Cruiselines!!! – to discover that they mix up their rooms/balconies between smokers and nonsmokers! That’s ridiculous and it’s NOT simply a matter of annoyance, but HEALTH. We’ve ALWAYS booked a balcony, but after reading this article, we’ll start booking inside cabins, as I fear our previous “good luck” has probably run it’s course and that we’re way “overdue” for a smoking neighbor! WHOA! What an awakening! But, please do NOT blame the smokers! Many years ago, I was a smoker, too – albeit, a polite one. They aren’t breaking any “rules” if the cruiseline allows it. Complain to the cruiseline! It seems simple enough to me to just limit the smoking cabins (and balconies) to the aft area of ONE side of the ship! That should make ALL happy. 202. T. Hobbs June 15th, 2011 @ 10:54 pm As a travel agent and a smoker it is hard for me to believe that someone smoking on their high priced balcony bothers you so much. I am a very concederate smoker. I cruise at least twice per year and I follow the rules. I do not throw them over board or down the toilet. During our cruise from Barcalona, I put a cig. out and threw it in the trash. The Stwart came in an reported me. I just flew over with 42 woman from the usa and got on the ship and had a cig. on the balcony. He reported me and the manager came to talk with me and while we were on the balcony our next door guest threw their cig. right off the balcony and it was seen by the manager. Nevertheless, I received flowers every other day, robes and other special treats. Follow the rules about smoking and for the ones that think I am killing them, find a cruise that is smoke fee. I do think the idea of putting smoking cabins either on the port side or the starboard side is a good idea, but, I do not think they will sell out the non-smoking cabins. I know it is that way outside. 203. Scott June 15th, 2011 @ 11:44 pm To John S. Replace the word smoker with non-smoker and the context of your condescending rant applies just the same. Such is life. 204. Rob June 15th, 2011 @ 11:50 pm Ha Ha… It’s funny that all the cigar smokers refer to their burning weed as ‘fine”, sorry people but it still stinks like donkey #ss! 205. John June 16th, 2011 @ 12:12 am Great news from Princess tonight, from the perspective of a couple including one asthma sufferer and one who gets headaches when exposed to smoke. After 15 Jan. 2012, \smoking will no longer be allowed in passenger staterooms or balconies onboard the Princess fleet\. It will be interesting to see the degree of compliance to the new rule, but any reduction in smoke seeping into staterooms and hallways, and wafting onto nearby balconies, will be a great relief to many of us. 206. maggie June 16th, 2011 @ 5:45 am What about the people who smoke above the open balconies..when then are finished the throw the butts down to the water but half the time it lands on the balcony below…also we have found food on our balcony from people eating on the open decks above us..the lido decks.. come on folks where are your manners…finished eating your meals use the garbage pail they supply on the ships tink of other passengers who don’t want your garbage landing on their balconies……smoke your heads off but put the cigarettes, ect. outin the proper containes they supply on the ships… 207. Heather June 16th, 2011 @ 8:42 am Well done Princess, 15 Jan 2012, we shall certainly look forward to that momentous date with pleasure. Apart from the smoking inconvenience we find Princess the best line for so many destinations in so few days, and will continue to enjoy sailing with her. 208. Simon June 16th, 2011 @ 8:55 am Smokers are the pits … not only is it disgustingly smelly, but through ‘secondary smoking (breathing in their exhaled death polutant)’ my health is at risk to. Also consider this – several ‘reported’ major ship fires were caused by discarded cigarettes setting things alight on the balconies, lots more near misses have gone unreported. 209. Karen June 16th, 2011 @ 10:22 am I took my niece on a cruise for her graduation and my biggest complaint was the couple next door who had sex on the balcony (and bedroom and bathroom and who knows where else)!!! It was very obvious what they were doing since she was a screamer. Everytime we entered our room they were going at it. I was scared to let my niece out on the balcony!!! After a while it became a joke. Good thing we took ear plugs for sleeping!!! 210. Roz June 16th, 2011 @ 11:38 am Thanks to all the smokers for letting me know how much perfume upsets them. In future when they light up near me I’ll just squirt some perfume into the air. I used to use incense as I know they hate that but perfume is much easier. By the way, Azamara is an excellent cruise line for non smokers and on both cruises we’ve had with them there were no kids or yuppies, just plenty of considerate, funloving over 40′s. 211. Nancy June 16th, 2011 @ 1:30 pm I don’t guess it ever occurred to any of you whiners TO CHECK WHAT IS AND IS NOT ALLOWED before you book a cruise, or a cabin on that cruise? 212. Peter G June 16th, 2011 @ 1:30 pm T. Hobbs (#202) must be a travel agent, cruising on a free or reduced fare. Her/his comments don’t come from anyone paying in full. 213. Artrina June 16th, 2011 @ 2:34 pm Yesterday as I read this thread and wrote my response I was planning a cruise for next year, but, hadn’t decided on the ship. After seeing the Princess announcement yesterday I have my search narrowed down to 2 Princess ships and it WILL be a balcony cabin! 214. Pat June 16th, 2011 @ 2:36 pm If Princess has now banned smoking in cabins/balconies (we never smoked in the cabin but did check with our neighbors prior to smoking on the balcony) I guess we’ll be getting our future cruise credit back. What a shame, we were really looking forward to a 10-day cruise for our 10 year anniversary. We love cruising but may change to an all-inclusive resort. I do think the cruiselines are going to loose money when the smokers can’t smoke anymore but maybe the intent for the very vocal non-smokers is for the lines to have to reduce rates on balcony rooms when they can’t be filled. 215. TruckerMark June 16th, 2011 @ 3:44 pm Perhaps it is because I live in a large urban area, or because I would be worried about mosquitos, but I never once thought of leaving my balcony door open at night before I read it on here. I have also seen that maintenance personnel from the shipline can easily access all of the balconies from the outside of the ship, so the balconies are definitely not \private\. I myself would never think of trying to peer around the edge of a balcony either. I believe that the last HAL cruise that I was on they said not to leave your balcony door open too. In fact there was a sticker right on the balcony door that said that I do believe. My wife and I prefer a later schedule, and we always try to observe quiet hours but we always seem to get put right next to people who think nothing of being loud at 7:00 AM. I would appreciate it if some of these cruise lines had sound insulation between rooms like better hotels do. Remember that the ship’s casino, bars, and the Lido are open 24 hours, they don’t close just because you go to bed at 9:00 or earlier. I often prefer to take a late afternoon nap, are you quiet in the late afternoon so that I can sleep then? You probably never thought of that either. I do smoke, and if HAL says that I can smoke on my balcony that is where I smoke 75% of the time. I pay extra for a balcony so that I can smoke there. My guess is that some ship lines are worried that more passengers will want non-balcony cabins if they ban smoking on cabin balconies. I have never smoked in my cabin. I have tried to quit for 10 years but so far I haven’t been successful. You ever get a good whiff of diesel smoke in your cabin leaving the door open? That would give you a good reason to leave the door closed, the air quality in a lot of these foreign ports too. Just like airline seats, just try to remember that the other guy’s cabin and balcony are what he paid for too. 216. TruckerMark June 16th, 2011 @ 3:53 pm One more thing about casinos, bars, and smoking: Here at home in Colorado, ever since the State saw fit to ban smoking indoors in casinos and bars, casino and bar patronage is way down. Perhaps if cruise ships ban smoking they won’t need nearly as much space devoted to casinos or bars either? 217. Crystal G. June 16th, 2011 @ 5:24 pm My 81 year old mom and I have taken quite a few cruises in the last 10 years or so. The worst incident of all of our cruises involved the obnoxious children on a NCL summer Mediterranean cruise several years ago. We have taken summer cruises before and children have not been an issue even when there were a huge number on board. I am a teacher and a grandmother and I am well used to having children around and usually enjoy their company. However, I have never seen a more rude, self-centered group of youngsters in my life! They disrupted entertainment, kept people awake, used inappropriate language, blocked hallways all with their parents looking on fondly as if to say “Kids will be kids”. Baloney!! These children needed handlers! I tried to keep my cool until one of them pushed my mother and her walker out of the way as he tried to run yelling through the cafeteria to join his buddies at the other end. I spoke to him, at which point he made a flip hand gesture brushing me off. I tracked down his parents and they basically told me to get lost and accused me of being racially motivated. My mother was very shaken. The staff vainly attempted to keep these little gangsters in line. Even though this was only one cruise of many, I have now retired and will not ever take my mother on another cruise that would attract so many children. I still think, “Shame on those parents!” 218. Tina June 16th, 2011 @ 5:58 pm I’ve been on many cruises and have never heard or seen sex acts from our balcony. I told my husband about it and he said if he was booked in a room next to a couple having sex every night on their balcony he would have no problem ruining their mood by booing their lack of positions, length of sex or whatever else he thought of!!! Anything to ruin the mood! 219. Jan June 16th, 2011 @ 6:31 pm we are BALCONYING it the first time our next cruise and sure HOPE its a PLEASANT experience! 220. DJ June 16th, 2011 @ 8:43 pm Well, well, well. I guess we have seen the gamut of emotions here. What a bunch of whiney wussy Americans. We grew up in air pollution, water pollution and now we gripe about cigarette smoke..pro and con> I am a non smoker and I remember when people smoked in the bank, at the grocery store, doctor’s office waiting room. I could go on and on. I am a non smoker, and find drunks and rudeness a lot more offensive than smoke. Make one of the ship side smokeless and the non smokers will bitch and want the other side, no matter what side it is. We all want perfect, shame on us. I liked us, and America when we were all a little tougher,tolerant, and respectful of others. And yes I do understand second hand smoke, and don’t like it. But I also dislike obese people screwing up my insurance and every facet of life with their selfishness. Grow up folks. Go on vacation, relax, be tolerant and get back our senses of humor. 221. charley morgan June 16th, 2011 @ 9:32 pm NON SMOKERS —write the cruise lines and let them know Smoke Kills and Smoking in cruise cabins Is a FIRE ready to happen we just finished 2 cruises on the Caribbean Princess and was surrounded by smokers—-Princess needs to change their smoking rules NOW and stop selling cigarettes and cigars on the ship Holland is the worst for allowing smoking 222. Frank June 16th, 2011 @ 11:16 pm Well the adage “Your rights end where mine begin” seems to take all its sense, in reading these postings. If we really think about this , we all work hard for our money and we all want to enjoy our holiday. Somewhere and some how we lost a little bit of perspective on this situation. Shouldn’t the onus be on the cruising companies. Why should we be bickering? Let the companies post their policies. As a non-smoker, I applaude “Princess” but as social,fun loving couple person, who loves to dance, have a drink and laugh, I don’t believe that oppression is the only way. The only thing that really bothers my wife and I is cigar smoke and obnoxius, ill mannered people! The rest we can take: noisy kids,cigarette smoking, over the top exhibitionists, cheap perfume, you name it! We refuse to let this bother our vacation! Like one of the commentors said, our glass is half full. 223. Pam Parsons June 16th, 2011 @ 11:32 pm Saying that a non smoking cruise would be non-profitable is BS. If all Cruise Lines enforced non smoking on all ships I guarentee you that they will still fill the ships. Airlines banned smoking and that does not stop people from flying, restaurants have banned smoking and that does not stop people from dining, quite the opposite. As a former smoker who can not stand the smell of smoke, I would welcome a cruise that was smoke free. 224. Carole D June 17th, 2011 @ 12:16 am Thanks go out to those who suggested using perfume or air freshener to get the message across to the “all day” balcony smokers. With that in mind, I just may book another cruise after an inconsiderate cigar smoking neighbor ruined our Inner Passage and Hubbard Glacier cruise. 225. Alex Shaw June 17th, 2011 @ 1:52 am I pay my money just like you. If i want to smoke,(I don,t but S/O does) or drink or WHATEVER, including sunbathing in my birthday suit – I WILL. I obey the rules on smoking, as does my S/O – poke your nose around my balcony wall – Enjoy the view, and the fist right behind it if i catch you. I work to be a good neighboor, but what about the little monsters whose parents FAIL to control? that and the cruise lines have the nerve to automaticcly add in a tip 200. try to dispute it – good luck. tough titty to you non-smokers out there, you have the choice to book a non-smoking ship or cabin, since they are generally grouped together you should not have a problem on your balconey. I worked too hard too have a bunch of blowhards tell me how to act. Get your children under control, respect my space on the balconey – as in if i wanted to meet you i would knock on your door. Happy Trails A. 226. Bill Doss June 17th, 2011 @ 9:43 am I always get a balcony. The smokers ruin the us about half the time. It is not only the people on either side but people on balconies below. It is the same no matter which cruise line. I have sailed on: Crystal Azamara Celebrity RCCL HAL Princess NCL Just because people book Crystal does not mean the money makes them considerate. It does not! 227. Karen June 17th, 2011 @ 10:04 am i would like to say as a smoker, that I only smoked on my balcony when there was no one else out there.My husband is not a smoker, so I never smoked in the cabin. I was on NLC in April and did see the staff of the ship stop people from smoking inside the ships common areas and outside on the decks when they were in non smoking areas. I also noticed many many people were smoking in the designated areas. Even on dry land, I smoke outside and never around children. I also have to say that if ships were made 100% non smoking I would not cruise anymore. My suggestion is that you speak directly to your neighbors. Most people understand non smokers and non smokers should understand people who smoke. 228. Bob June 17th, 2011 @ 2:21 pm Well, the comments have just about run their course and the concensus is to \off\ the smokers. I couldn’t agree more simply based on the premise that one can’t name one benefit to smoking. HOWEVER, there are laws and \house rules\ on ships. Since it is still a free world in many respects, the silent majority needs to weigh in an let capitalism decide what majority rules the roost (since this is a finacial transaction). As long as the silent majority remains silent, smokers and sexers and noisy kids and rude people will have the upper hand-legally. Morally they lose but only God or some other bigwig takes the final count on that ballot. So in all actuality, most folks have a valid argument on this blog, but in most capitalistic scenarios, money drives the bus or the bus changes direction. It is up to the complainers (of which I count myself as one) to voice your opinion-don’t just take it. Such is the method and manner of \liberal\ or left of center practitioners-they are vociferous in their pursuit of their happiness. This type of situation exists across many other channels in our increasingly liberal, less moral and fractured society. (And for those ready to respond-there are good and bad Dems and Repubs, that isn’t my message here but I digress…) If all of you complaining on this anonymous blog expect change to happen-it won’t. Do the right thing and hack off on your favorite cruise line(s) and get a blog started to rid the cruise world of bad behaviour. Anyone with me? FYI, Celebrity has treated us well for many years and we have never experienced much of what has been mentioned here. I count myself as lucky. If I were running a cruise line, make the rules-whatever they might be AND STICK TO THEM! If Carnival wants to be the fun/loud/smokey/drinky kind of experience, go for it. If Celebrity wants to cater to 40+ year old fogeys, let ‘em. Everyone is different but reasonable similar when carved into certain groups. You can’t be all things to all people. Good luck to all of us because we all just want to enjoy OUR cruises in OUR own way. Be respectful of everyone if nothing else, your mom and dad would hopefully be proud of you and your kids will look up to you. 229. Roz June 17th, 2011 @ 6:12 pm Dr John Tickell is right – You can’t be intelligent and smoke. Everyone agrees that it’s mostly smokers who gamble and drink a lot, so the cruise companies make a fortune out of these poor fools. Smoking wastes your money, ruins your health, makes you a social leper and you stink! Why not just bite the bullet and wake up to yourselves – give it up! Oh, I’m sorry,I forgot, it’s your right, or you’re too weak – you’ve tried & can’t do it, so everybody else has to suffer because of your bad habit & if they say anything, they’re bitter, boring whingers. Yep, John Tickell is right. 230. Steve Shaw June 17th, 2011 @ 7:19 pm I have yet to see many posts about the kids running wild – the parents are oblivious and expect the ship to baby sit them. When I was coming up – I am 50+ and a boomer – we have money,time and poplitical power, Hear us roar in the next few years, and beyond. Unlike the later generations that were conditioned to follow like lemmings over a cliff, we do not. Do your research – If you want a party go with a line like carnival. if you want elegance, get on the Queen Mary 2. there is something for everyone out there – all it takes is a little time on the computer(don’t have one – the public library does) That, and you pay for. When I am able to afford a cruise, I do my homework and most of the time get what I want. Carnival was good, what I expecteds for the price, Automaticlly adding a tip is outragous(200.) they say you can contest this – good luck – although i should have contactesd my credit card company – My Fault. Anyway, what I said in my previous post stands. Keep your children under control, do not peek around walls, privacy or otherwise and enjoy the trip – it’s a vacation!! if you do not enjoy it, well, the ships are BIG these days, it’s YOUR fault – I believe in following the rules But stay out of my business and we will all have a grand time A. 231. Tom June 17th, 2011 @ 8:00 pm As a non-smoker married to a smoker I’m having trouble understanding how smoking in the outdoors on the balcony is such an issue. It never bothers me outdoors. My wife only smokes outdoors never inside, even at home. How much time are you spending on the balcony anyway that you get so bent out of shape? We spend the extra money to have a balcony for that purpose. I’ve suggested to Princess that smokers be booked starboard and non smokers on the port side. That would work. And maybe as someone else suggested you start smoking Canadian cigarettes rather than the smellier U.S. brands. It’s worth a try. Hey people you can’t always have it your way. And yes, control those ankle biters, now that’s annoying! 232. Lisa June 18th, 2011 @ 2:04 am Smokers who don’t realize how obnoxious they are, are in denial. If cruise lines want to accommodate them, fine – but not at the expense of everyone else’s comfort and health. And don’t make us pay for the extra$$ it costs to clean up after them. Tolerance has to go both ways. If you can’t be tolerant of my need for smoke-free air, accusing me of intolerance if I complain about your smoke is hypocritical and stupid. And that goes for people who overdo it on the perfume, leave lights on all night, or can’t keep their voices down late at night or early in the mornings as well. If you don’t want people complaining about your behaviour, then don’t behave in ways that will make them complain. If your idea of a good time ruins other people’s, get used to being complained about. And get used to increasingly restrictive policies on obnoxious behaviour. 233. Jaye June 18th, 2011 @ 7:35 am I don’t understand why smoking is allowed at all on any ship. They confiscate travel irons, extension cords because of fire hazard but it is okay to have a lit fire in the room or on the balcony? Makes absolutely no sense at all. 234. Sue June 18th, 2011 @ 4:23 pm If you don’t like smoking book a non smoking cruise. I am so tired of non smokers and reformed smokers telling smokers how to run thier lives. You are not always right. Get over yourselves. I am not saying smoking is good for you but I am saying we live in a county that allows us to be individuals and have the right to make our own choices. Thank you. 235. Alan June 18th, 2011 @ 5:33 pm My wife and I are far from prudes but on a recent 5-day Celebrity cruise our neighbors not only smoked pot a few times each day but they also enjoyed activities normally appropriate inside a state room ( if you get my drift!). In fact when we departed the port in Honduras they even put on a show for the small boats around the harbor. We told them that their behavior was inappropriate and made us feel uncomfortable but to no avail. We didn’t say anything to ship personnel but now that we’re home we realize we should have. 236. Beachgranny June 19th, 2011 @ 2:00 pm Among balcony offenders are the mindless people who feed the sea birds. 237. dontpanik June 19th, 2011 @ 3:42 pm There are too many people who need to unclench here! I am an asthmatic, non-smoker. As a child, I used to go to the hospital, school, police department, grocery store and restaurants ALL full of smokers and survived. The amount of second-hand smoke you get from your neighbor outside is minimal at best. It may stink to high heaven but for the love of god, please stop hiding behind the health defense. I find cigar smoke incredibly annoying and while I don’t indulge, the person in the room next to me paid the same or possible more for their stateroom then I did. I have no right to tell them what they can do on the balcony they rented for their cruise. I cannot stand drunks, loud children, obnoxious teenagers, those wheelie shoes, people who don’t wash their hands before touching buffet utensils, people who talk on their cell phones in the hearing of others, loud yankees, crowded pools, seat savers, and anyone who chooses to be rude to wait-staff. If I would like to avoid all of them, I can choose to stay home. If I want to enjoy my vacation, I need to realize the universe doesn’t revolve around me and I must annoy plenty people myself while enjoying the cruise my way. 238. Barb Hill June 20th, 2011 @ 1:33 am Both my Husband & I have been sailing for past 15 years or so and love it. We are now at the stage of our life where we can afford a suite with balcony. If we want to sit out there and have a drink and smoke why shouldn’t we. It is not like we sit there all day, usually mid afternoon drink/coffee with a smoke. It is still legal to smoke and if i have paid 5-6K per person for a holiday I should be able to enjoy the amenities that we have paid our money for . 239. New Cruiser June 20th, 2011 @ 12:40 pm How is anyone having fun with all of the complaining!? I have experienced down-wind second-hand smoke, but it didn’t stay embedded in my memory. That happens everywhere, everyday; it is what it is. Do I like it? No, but there are more important issues especially on vacation like HAVING FUN!!! So smoking, talking and kids are the most annoying aspects of having a balcony or even cruising? Let’s add whiners who expect perfection on a cruise to the list. These types of topics draw out negativity in people and makes cruising sound dreadful. Hopefully, the next topic will be “what did you enjoy on your cruise? What makes having a balcony stateroom worth the money?” My conclusion after reading the complaints and bickering, nothing. 240. Scott June 20th, 2011 @ 6:20 pm One good thing about this thread is, after reading comments from the most astounding array of self rightious whiners I’ve ever seen, I no longer feel any need to try and be cautious with my fine cigar smoke. Screw-ya-all LOL! Got a favorite peeve? Get on the internet….amazing…LOL. 241. alex shaw June 21st, 2011 @ 1:37 am ok – thats it. I go on a cruise to enjoy myself. expect me to be in my birthday suit on the balconey, Put your face around the wall and see what happens, you will not want to again, I will smoke a fine cigar, and I WILL loudly reprimand your kids if they are out of control as well as complain to the staff incessantly about them. I will knock on your door if necassacary to quiet your kids. above all I will have fun. A. 242. Chris L June 21st, 2011 @ 2:44 am Kimberly03051 You AND Katherine give smokers a bad name!! I pay extra for a balcony, & expect an environment I can enjoy. We spend time on our balcony…enjoying the sun, FRESH SEA AIR, our ipods & each other’s company. You may choose to smoke, I do not have that choice as a passive smoker!! Be reasonable & sensitive to the needs of others…& you may actually enjoy yourselves even more!! 243. Previous Poster June 22nd, 2011 @ 9:25 am Scott-your level of selfishness rises well above the self-rightousness (minus the “i” you inserted probably as a result of your fine upbringing and education) of the MAJORITY of bloggers here. As you live and breathe in your tiny sphere, don’t confuse self-rightousness with consideration, of which you arguably have none. Thank God you aren’t my neighbor and I am fairly certain most of the other bloggers here would agree as well. Our cumulative wish might be that somewhere, sometime you encounter a boorish bit of behaviour you wish would cease. Then, you hopefully will understand what the rest are trying to convey, but then I have heard a leopard doesn’t change its spots so we probably will be forced to deal with your ilk in other ways. Does it make sense to you that smoking is gradually being banned virtually everywhere? Hmmm, it strikes me there must be a reason and I chose to quit many years ago. I guess I am the stupid mean one, huh? 244. JuliaZ June 22nd, 2011 @ 3:57 pm We can afford a balcony but never get one. I can’t stand cigarette smoke and refuse to pay money to be exposed to it. The cruise lines are missing out on $$from us. Ditto the casinos. I’ve never set foot in one, but I definitely would if they were smoke-free. 245. J Broderick June 22nd, 2011 @ 8:02 pm Wow, I can’t believe what a bunch of people who want to control the behaviors of others has gathered here. Amazing. When you leave it up to others to behave in the way you want before you can be happpy you give away all your power and your chance at happiness. I had a balcony last year with a smoker that was bothersome nearby but I adjusted. Yes, it was a bit disappointing but easy to sit outside in public areas instead of stewing about it. I read about as many of the comments as I could take….. I thought I would see something about sex on balconiesw or leaving the balcony door open and sexual sounds bothering neighbors but there was too much smoke in here to see if there were any such comments here. 246. Ron June 23rd, 2011 @ 10:04 am This debate will never be resolved…..EVER!!!! Smokers have complied with every policy put into effect by companies who want to appease their non-smoking clients. But, it will never be good enough for the non-smokers. NEVER! But, I think it’s so funny that sooo many non-smokers keep suggesting that cruise lines create a non-smoking cruise ship and that would solve the problem. Well, *****NEWSFLASH****** a non-smoking ship was created (Carnival Miracle) and they had to ultimately eliminate the non-smoking policy because they could not ever fill the ship to a capacity that would justify keeping the ship 100% non-smoking. If cruise lines completely banned smoking on their ships, their profits would plummet and they’d go out of business. That’s the hard-core truth. Non-smokers need to get over themselves. Life is full of obstacles. People who smoke in an open-air environment are not going to harm you. Let me repeat that…..OPEN-AIR. You’re paranoid if you believe otherwise. It is only been shown (with shotty science at best) that second-hand smoke is harmful in ENCLOSED, NON-VENTILATED areas. The degree of harm is still the subject of debate. But, in an open-air setting (on the deck of a ship, a balcony), the smoke is so dissipated at that point it will not harm you. Smokers just don’t like the smell. Well…..too bad. There’s some pretty nasty smelling non-smokers out there….you better hope someone decides to have you banned some day! Smokers are here to stay! 247. Ron June 23rd, 2011 @ 10:38 am “Previous Poster”…….it’s spelled “righteous”. So, before you insult others because of their misspelling of a word, perhaps you should make sure you know how to spell it first. You are the definition of the word that you don’t know how to spell. LOL, what a joke! 248. thunder June 23rd, 2011 @ 2:12 pm all of these complaints about the right to breathe “fresh clean air”, how about the people that take baths in their perfume? my last cruise, i spent 7 hours(which was an additional 1200.00 added to my cruise) in the infirmary because of 1 womans perfume, and her lack of consideration. it wasn’t “old lady perfume” it was actually “raid” or “black flag”, it all smells the same. what about MY rights to breathe frsh clean perfume free air? and to you other non-smokers, i am not a smoker, but i have to womder, do you avoid family cookouts and bbqs because of the smoke? do you avoid going to holiday celebrations where ther might be fireworks because of the smoke? do you also complain about that? i can’t believe some peole bitch as much as they do about something that someone does that only lasts about 5-7 for them to do it and you act like your vacation is totally ruined because of it. get over yourselves and leave the perfume at home. 249. TravelWise101 June 23rd, 2011 @ 9:55 pm Amanda – I was told you are not suppose to leave your balcony doors open. Those of you packing your bungie cords to keep them open – tisk tisk. They try to regulate the ships temperature, or so I’m told, and this is the reason you are not suppose to leave those doors open. I’m hopeful that our neighbors will learn to close theirs quietly. Maybe slip notes to my neighbors about a contest to see who can shut doors quietly would work (smirk). 250. Love2Travel June 24th, 2011 @ 12:15 am I have went on a Carnival Cruise twice now and the 1st cruise I remember not being to use our balcony much at all because of SMOKE…. Couldn’t stand it! And the 2nd time was even worse. EVERY SINGLE TIME we went out on the balcony we were in SMOKE fumes. It was so annoying and so unfair because we couldn’t be outside at all becasue we had smokers on both sides of us that were out there EVERY COTTON PICKING TIME!! At least make one side of the ship NON-SMOKING!! Or better yet make the entire ship SMOKE FREE!!!!!!!!!! 251. rudy June 24th, 2011 @ 10:00 am @Roz, “I used to use incense as I know they hate that but perfume is much easier.” Point 1- you are deliberately doing something people hate so that is quite aggressive behavior “By the way, Azamara is an excellent cruise line for non smokers and on both cruises we’ve had with them there were no kids or yuppies, just plenty of considerate, funloving over 40′s.” Point 2 – I would not call this (in your mind, including you) behavior ‘funloving’, just aggressive as evidenced in Point 1 252. Vlad June 24th, 2011 @ 10:02 pm To be honest, there’s a few things to think about: 1) more and more ships are smoking-free zones, if not completely then almost. It’s hard for smokers to find a decent place to enjoy their habit. Face it, they paid for that cruise same as everybody else and they’re not actually smoking on your balcony, but theirs. Yeah, I know, it’s a nasty habit and it affects people around them (I’m not a smoker and I really hate that habit, but you have to respect that others have rights too so communication is the key here). 2) They cannot smoke 24/7 on their balconies. If they smoke too much, too often, polite conversation with them should sort things out. If not, hey, that’s why there’s guest relations and/or security. Give ‘em a call and let them sort it out for you! I personally don’t like smoking, but people have right to name their poison. If they want to smoke, fine, they know the consequences. Yes, spreading that unhealthy smoke around isn’t a nice thing and smokers tend to be careless with that (hey, they don’t think about consequences for THEM, you really think most of them cares about your health?) so a little bit of civility, understanding and communication here goes a long way. And remember to enjoy your cruise no matter what! That’s what it is for! Relax, mon! 253. Previous Poster June 25th, 2011 @ 8:26 am Good catch Ron-but it was put there for irony. At least you noticed it! Sometimes benign humor gets lost in the translation. As far as the smoking debate goes, great progress is being made contrary to your assertions. For your reference and anyone else that is interested in info on smoke-free ships (from 2009), here is a link to an article from Frommer’s. As you can clearly see, many respectable cruise lines are taking gradual if not noticeable action against the scourge of smoking. Lest your perception be that the smoking issue will never be resolved, I believe it is well on its way to someday being resolved. Also, your assertion that there is no health effect in open air is absolutely false. As a doctor, I can confirm it indeed can trigger an asthma attack among a host of other respiratory compromises. Keep you mind open and learning will follow. 254. Rhetorically Speaking of Course... June 25th, 2011 @ 10:43 am For many (the majority) of us here, I am sure we sometimes wonder if our society has really “evolved” or are we going in the other direction now? The compelling argument from the other other side would be “Well Neanderthals didn’t smoke did they?” So does that make them (the Neanderthals) better/smarter than today’s smokers? Sorry smokers, but it is deserved. And in case you’re wondering, I count myself as a ‘former’ Neanderthal. The key here is to find objectivity, eh? 255. Patrick June 26th, 2011 @ 12:42 pm We were on Freedom Of The Seas, we were relaxing in one of the cantilevered hot tubs that extend over the edge of the ship. From there you could see most of the balconies on that side of the ship. We were quite surprised to see a big bald guy urinating over the edge of his balcony, in broad daylight. An absolutely classless act, especially when you consider he would have been about 15 feet from the washroom in his cabin. 256. Bill S June 26th, 2011 @ 12:57 pm I will be sailing on Princess next cruise and NOT on Carnival for one simple reason: the new “no smoking on balconies” policy. Had to suck smoke on our balcony on our May cruise. Never again. 257. suzib13 June 26th, 2011 @ 12:58 pm SMOKERS, Why should we have to smell your dirty disgusting smoke ruining our health, drinkers only harm their own body. If you want to smoke thats fine, but CRUISE SHIPS take note more and more people don’t smoke make non smoking cruise ships then we can go everywhere including the casino. SMOKERS RUIN YOUR BALCONY TIME AND AS I AM ALLERGIC TO SMOKE BRINGS ON ASTHMA ATTACK IT SHOULD BE BANNED IN EVERY PUBLIC PLACE.!! 258. Huw June 26th, 2011 @ 1:03 pm Well, I suspect that smoking may offend more than anything else!! I dont smoke. The only daft thing I ever remember doing on a balcony was firing a champagne cork at a water taxi in Venice. Obviously, it wasnt my first bottle of wine that day (4th!!), I missed the taxi by a mile and I appologise unreservedly to all involved!! lol Happy Days!!! 259. Dawn June 26th, 2011 @ 1:07 pm As an ex-smoker, I do prefer not to have to smell it in my room. I, however, find peoples children carrying on early in the morning and late at night terribly disturbing on two cruises we had children next door that, had I not known better, would have sworn there was a herd of elephant in there. The parents would leave them unattended and all hell would break loose. And when the parents were there, it wasnt much better. If I wanted to deal with children I would have gone to Disney. I still cannot believe that cruise lines do not offer a section of the ship that would offer cabins for families with children. they can then wake each other up at 6 am every morning! 260. Gail B June 26th, 2011 @ 1:08 pm We sail Royal Caribbean and always book a balcony on the Starboard Side.. This is the smoke free side of the ship.. Allure and Oasis also have the Casino with both a smoking and non smoking side and altho the smoke does creep over to the non smoking side it’s not quite so bad. We love the idea of a non smoking side of the ship and utilize it ..therefore no complaints about smokers.. 261. mick June 26th, 2011 @ 1:20 pm My wife and I will be taking our first cruise in a few months and we are both smokers. I think its un fair for non smokers to complain about this. If the smokers have enough respect to follow the ships rules as well as smoke outside then you should stop complaining and enjoy your cruise. pick your battles cause its not always about you. just my 2 cents 262. Beverly Giewat June 26th, 2011 @ 1:43 pm I generally don’t complain about much, just got off the Oasis and found the dual casino to be fine. It had both smoking and non-smoking. Hey, a bit of smell never hurt anyone. The ship had sections for smokers and I never saw anyone smoking where they weren’t. I have found that complaining of boards is just a waste of time, as you will catch crap from both sides. If we were all a little bit more patient and tolerant, life would be so much easier for all. 263. mark June 26th, 2011 @ 1:46 pm Nude sunbathing on the balcony……………. 264. Sailesh Nath June 26th, 2011 @ 1:59 pm smoking should not be permitted on cruise ships…as many are today…..that is how the fire started on the Star Princess in Caribbean!! 265. Kimbies June 26th, 2011 @ 2:19 pm Smoking on a ship is a fire hazard.. Period. If there is a fire, as a non smoker I want to make sure all smokers are put on the life boats last.. To make sure I as a non smoker survive the ship going down. And consideration for others? Obviously a thing of the past for all nationalities.. Not just americans! 266. Dave June 26th, 2011 @ 2:38 pm I personally dislike cigarette smoke and the butts all over the place, but cruisers need to realize if you want to have a private experience where all of your habits and boundaries are respected than rent your own boat and sail around. When you choose to vacation with thousands of other people, you’re going to have to cope with their behavior. We do not live in a bubble. That said, one would think the cruise lines would come up with a better way to handle smoking in order to make ALL their guests feel welcome and relaxed. If they can ask you what dining you want when booking, why not make it clear that one side of the ship allows smoking on the balconies and the other doesn’t. 267. Andy Smithers June 26th, 2011 @ 2:59 pm I say get an inside room. Sleep better in the dark. Run naked no one can see you. That may be the price you pay for a balcony room 268. Dan C June 26th, 2011 @ 3:37 pm @ Nancy R- Re: June 15th: I don’t mind smoking, I just don’t want them to exhale. Gamblers are not using MY money, and Drinkers don’t use my body to filter their drinks, so it isn’t the same as smoking. Drunks may be loud and get in late and would be waking me, but it isn’t polluting my body. 269. T. Hobbs June 26th, 2011 @ 3:45 pm I have been very blessed to have a balcony on every cruise I have been on. From the Caribbean to the Mediterranean Sea and don’t tell a European he can’t smoke. But, never has someone’s smoke come from their cabin to mine. Now the Mary Jane, yes I can smell it but, I do not hear anyone complaining about that. I do think that the ships should have sections for non-smokers or maybe for all the people that just like to complain about others behavior. Until smoking become illegal then do your research or get a Travel Agent to find that perfect cruise that will take care of YOUR every complaint about other people. PS: To say that second hand smoke effects your life, well, so does pollution and people who drink. During a excursion a man was intoxicated and almost hurt several people with his behavior. So, drinking alcohol is a issue too. Everyone wants to enjoy there vacation just like you do, so find the right cruise for you, get a travel agent. Tell them your wants and they will do what ever they can to accommodate your needs. 270. Jen June 26th, 2011 @ 7:15 pm We’re a non-smoking couple who always book balconies and honestly, I can’t think of a single cruise where we’ve been forced off of our balcony because of smokers. Lucky, I guess. My personal pet peeve are the folks who leave the outside light on; drives me crazy! Half the time I don’t even think they realize it; on one cruise, it was on the entire seven days! Hard to enjoy sleeping with the curtains open when you’ve got that going on… 271. Lori M June 27th, 2011 @ 9:42 am On our cruise to Alaska last summer, we booked a balcony so we could enjoy the spectacular scenery. On boarding, I carefully stowed our clothing on the ample shelves in the stateroom. Imagine our shock when suddenly our room, not just the balcony was filled with smoke. There was a vent at the back of one of the shelves and smoke was pouring in thru it. I covered the vent with paper, but it our clothing still smelled. Neighbors on both sides were smokers and we could only enjoy our balcony if they were both absent from theirs. Imagine, that gorgeous scenery–and you have to keep your door closed so you can breathe! It seems to be that it would be simple to keep the smokers on one side of the ship and the non-smokers on the other. I am delighted that some of the lines are realizing it is a health issue, not just a comfort issue. 272. Scott June 27th, 2011 @ 5:41 pm Thanks Ron, I’m done with the silly prig. You can’t let the toxic personalities get you down. 273. Pat June 27th, 2011 @ 8:37 pm I am a very early riser. I like to run down to the 24 hr coffee shop, pick up a few cups to go and return to my room. I relax on the balcony with my coffee and watch the sun come up. My solitude experience is completely ruined by the smoker next door who has to light up as soon he wakes up. Discusting. 274. Dan June 27th, 2011 @ 9:44 pm Clearly the non-smokers have made themselves heard. All the fires raging in the US, nature must be sending them a message… Seriously, as a smoker I can’t recall ever staying in the room for more than sleeping and shower time. After all, when I am on vacation I sure as heck don’t want to waste my time by being antisocial in my room or on a balcony. I excuse the ladies, and some men their offensive fragrances. (You all have experianced that person you could smell long before you saw them) I would think an occassional smoke would be with-in limits. I think the rule here should be something along the lines of A night cap or morning cigg fine, not a whole pack. Moderation is a virtue after all. The same could be said for the person soaking in all that perfume. 275. dutchman June 28th, 2011 @ 10:26 am I love how people want everybody to think they could never use their balcony because of someone else along side of them for any reason. You know people are not on their balcony 24/7 like they try to make people think. Guess they never leave there cabin to do anything, they just like to complaine about the people next to them. They just try to streach the truth to benefit them. If 2nd hand smoke is killing everybody there would be nobody alive over 15. 276. Eileene June 28th, 2011 @ 12:45 pm Why do people compare smoking with drinking or gambling? While drinking can affect the health of the person drinking, smoking affects everyone around the smoker. It’s a proven health issue – whole cities have banned smoking in public places! All most of us want is the simple courtesy of smokers making sure their smoke isn’t affecting anyone around them (including on the next balcony). It’s a simple, but overlooked courtesy – like people who stop their shopping cart dead-center in a store aisle, blocking anyone else using the aisle. I find these people just don’t think about what they’re doing, and they are usually amenable (and apologetic) when it is politely brought to their attention. 277. steve shaw June 29th, 2011 @ 12:23 am Non smokers are a bunch of whiners. how about the little rug rats that ruined My last cruise, and no, i don,t smoke. I do lay on MY balconey in my birthday suit, so what? put your head around the PRIVACY wall and I WILL dot your eye. My other gripe is mandatory tips. The last time i cruised, I got hit for 200.00 dollars. when I contested it to the purser (rude) i was told to read the fine print. next time i will complain to my cc company – i understand Amex is quite agressive in charge disputes – I got lousy service so why should i leave a tip? when you non-smokers keep your little monsters in check, I was raised better, if I had done anything like I see today, I would have had trouble sitting. I will ask my S/O to only smoke on deck away from all you whiners. soget out of my face with the smoking BS – if you know smoking is allowed all over the ship – get a differant line – kind of like moving next to an airport and THEN complaining about the noise. S. 278. Ronda Rose July 1st, 2011 @ 3:10 pm Smokers are my biggest complaint along with all of their disgusting, nasty habits (coughing, spitting, etc.) On my last cruise I didn’t even return to my balcony after particularly unpleasant episode. Closely followed behind the smokers are parents who do not accompany thier children buffet. On my last three cruises, I observedchildren using their hands to remove food from the buffet, sniff it then put it back. I mentioned it to an several officers(?) wondering the buffet but nothing was ever done and the behavior continued. 279. Pam Goins July 7th, 2011 @ 3:47 pm OK-as a reformed smoker who vowed to never become ‘one of those people’ who can’t stand smoke once they quit- guess what? I really can’t stand smoke now! I quickly realized how annoying I was when I smoked. I literally stank-my hair, clothes, breath, etc, etc. Not to mention my constant cough and allergies. There was also that constant craving that made me miserable when I couldn’t smoke-I couldn’t enjoy a movie or even church because all I could think of was-man, I need a cigarette. If I meet someone now I can immediately tell if they are smokers. I know I am probably not going to make an impression on anyone, but please realize how your smoking affects others. I wish I had. Now I understand how my kids must have suffered for my addiction. Hopefully it did not affect them physically-time will tell, I guess. So, smokers, get a clue-your habit is not just yours-everyone around you is affected by this, whether you realize it or not. Also, I wish I had kept score of the amount of money that has been saved on the number of packs I haven’t used since I quit years ago. I only know it has to be a lot and quitting was the best decision of my life. Think about it! 280. Angel Garcia July 9th, 2011 @ 3:36 am I am a non-smoker. I’m not a former smoker or an occasional smoker. I’ve never smoked in my like and really don’t care for the smell. However, if I were THAT offended by the smell, or had an allergy to smoke I would seek out a line that doesn’t allow it. Simple as that. I’m also amazed by the number of people that say there should be a smoking and a non-smoking ‘side’ on a ship. Don’t you know by now that segregation NEVER works? Thirty seconds after these policies took effect, this message board would be filled with “It’s not fair that the SMOKERS get that cabin/ section/ side of the ship!” If you don’t want to deal with smokers, sail a non-smoking line and if you don’t want to smell a stinky elevator, take the stairs (especially if your elevator companions are too old to know that typing in ALL CAPS is rude). 281. Jennifer B July 10th, 2011 @ 10:16 am Be careful of balconies on lower decks that protrude further than the decks above (for example on Norwegian Epic). Upper deck garbage-food, cigarette butts, napkins, etc. covered our balcony everyday-our neighbors on both sides complained about the same issue. Could not sit outside for fear of flying french fries…cleaning staff had attitudes the few times we asked them to clean up-as if we had made the mess… 282. Diane Gugliano July 11th, 2011 @ 4:10 am Everyone needs to remember when you book a cruise there are 2000-3000 people on board. Some people are different from you. I HATE the smell of coffee, i do not drink coffee, so should everyone around me not drink coffee??? Of course not, we must all learn when we CHOOSE to vacation with 3000 strangers, some of them might not be people we want to make life long friendships with! Enjoy, relax and smile! 283. Linda King July 12th, 2011 @ 12:50 pm I just came back from a Mediterranean cruise and the guest in the cabin next to me was naked and he urinated in the corner which was next to my cabin. I don’t think he knew I was sitting next door. We reported it to the cabin steward who cleaned the balcony area after they had gone to dinner. He said nothing to the guest. They try so hard to please everyone and tend not to ‘rock the boat’. I thought that it was disgusting especially when there are so many toilets on board. 284. Cruisin'Col July 13th, 2011 @ 12:04 am Smoking. People who smoke don’t even know how badly they stink. Not just when we pass by them, but if I am walking behind them or getting near them (sometimes within 8 or 10 feet. How sad it is that a large number of parents care so little for their children that they expose them to constant smoke. (I know not all of them).When I worked in the school, it was so sad to walk down a hallway, as far away as 8 or 9 ft. away & catch a breath of smoke wreaking from children’s backpacks. I believe that smokers should be able to smoke…..however,…I believe that I should be able to breath, also. You have a right to do things, but this right should not take away my rights. Just as, “the right to swing you’re arm, stops at the end of my nose.” So, if your smoke enters my nose, lungs, etc., you should not be allowed to do it. My suggestion is that you should have a right to smoke near me, if, you tie a plastic bag over your head & tie it tightly around your neck keeping all the smoke in the bag. I have asthma & being near smoke does make me have a very difficult time breathing. I would love to gamble some, but it is not possible w/ the smoke. Why can’t they make half non-smoking & half smoking? I agree that having one side of the ship, balconies smoking & other side non-smoking. No one should be allowed to smoke in their rooms. GGRiff63 & Katherine…sorry…but you stink…you just can’t smell how badly because your nose sensors are all burned up.My daughter quit smoking two years ago & she said she can’t believe how badly people who smoke stink! Children: Monopolizing hot tubs & pools. After 13 cruises, I have only been able to get into the hot tub once. They even got in the “supposed” adult pool & hot tub. When my husband reported it, they just said, “Oh, well, they’ll leave soon, probably”. Come on parents…keep your kids out of the hot tub for long periods of time. I saw children doing cannonballs in the adult pool while the older ladies hair (which they got fixed once a week), got soaked. If you have children, please try to monitor them. BTW Diane, there is a big diffence between “hating the smell of something & not being able to breath.” 285. David July 14th, 2011 @ 4:22 pm The last cruise we were on, the upper balconies had dividers that kind of sloped back and you could almost see around them and certainly hear around them. I’m not sure whether it was his wife, girlfriend or an escort, but they were constantly having what sounded like very hard oral sex out there. Right next to us! The loud gagging and slurping sounds, combined with his “oh yeah baby, take it far!!” were more than creepy. You could vaguely hear them talking dirty but you couldn’t really make out what they were saying. And during one of their sessions, the guy got up to PEE OFF THE BALCONY, then without missing a beat they continued with his bj!! Yuck!!! We ran into them at one of the dinners and it was like, gross!! 286. arthur loev July 20th, 2011 @ 9:01 am I do agree with the smoking issues- though we usually cruise with Celebrity and smoking is not allowed on verandah’s and in cabins. ALSO– another cause for noise is for your cabin to be located close to the pool deck. In the morning- you will hear scraping of deck chairs as the pool crew readies the chairs for the day. lots of deck chairs- lots of scraping. AND ALWAYS MAKE SURE THAT YOUR CABIN HAS AN UNOBSTRUCTED VIEW. 287. Heduc8r July 21st, 2011 @ 5:21 am Hello? Anybody listening to themselves? Anybody with a problem about smoking stopped to think that smoking USED TO mostly affect those family and friends who were in closed, airless quarters with a smoker? Anybody thought about the fact that smokers are now (on some ships) forced to leave their staterooms in order to engage in this behavior (acceptable or not)? This decade has been informed (through medical research) about the health hazards of second hand smoke; yet, I have not seen any research to suggest that the smell of smoke emanating from someone smoking outdoors, a few feet away, can lead to health issues….the health issues appear to be related from the inhalation of smoke, rather than the smell. On the other hand, research is mounting about the ill effects of stress on the human body. Those who act obnoxiously will, no doubt, be the likely next target of intolerant people (who may need to look in the mirror). 288. Sheryl July 31st, 2011 @ 5:21 pm We travel on Princess and in a desperate move to escape cigarette smoke, we always book the largest suite in the back of the ship. I am a severe asthmatic. Every time I have been fortunate enough to have non-smoking neighbors, however the smoke permeates our balcony from lower or upper suites and especially from the balconies on the sides of the ship. Even with smoke from that distance, we have had to go in and shut the patio door. So those people who think that the smoke dissipates into the air from the front of the ship or the sides, I can tell you that it does not. But I am sure it is better in the back than on the sides anyway. The designated areas within the ship stink something awful and on Sea Princess, I couldn’t even sit in the computer room without coughing and getting nauseated. Cigars are expecially bad and I really think that anyone who smokes those things is incredibly inconsiderate and once more, I think they know it. I see that Princess is banning smoking from rooms and balconies come January and I am so incredibly glad. I don’t want to breathe that stuff and no one has a right to make me do it because they have an addiction they can’t control. I had an entire family wiped out by lung cancer and it is a horrible death. 289. LynnB August 17th, 2011 @ 8:14 am I am annoyed by balcony smokers. Not only can I smell it, but I have to listen to them hack and cough in between puffs. I think smoking should be banned on balconies and all interior spaces. Have you ever tried to go to RCCI’s pub or casino? It’s unbearable. The smell stays in your hair and on your clothes. I wonder if smokers would mind if I sprayed them with skunk smell every time they lit up? I figure if I have to be bothered with their odor, they should have to carry around mine, too. I also think they should NOT be allowed to bring on any cigarettes. They should have to buy them on the ship, just like others have to purchase drinks (but can’t bring on alcohol). Maybe that would cut down on all the chain smoking. I just want to be able to enjoy the fresh ocean air while on my balcony and be able to gamble or take in the Latin club without the perils of second hand smoke. 290. Fran H August 17th, 2011 @ 11:24 am I have never had the$$ for a balcony but have been next to those door slamming, loud talking, all night party people. I have called security and they came once, it did take them over an hour to come “check”. Security walked a few times up and down the hall and left. So finally I took it upon myself. I met my neighbors in the hall and “as nicely” as I could asked them to please try not to slam the door and to remember others do sleep after 1 am. They just looked at me like I was stupid. Ok so the next day when they actually woke me up again at 2am until 3am or so by repeatedly slamming their door and generally trying to keep the whole ship awake. I had my son stand in the door at 6 am slamming the door over and over. I also put my radio on full blast in the bathroom. with the door closed so the noise went right into their cabin. I also had a very loud discussion right outside their door at the same time I did bang their door a few times with my purse OPPS SORRY. OK not nice. They did come to the door open it see me and I just smiled and said I can get up earlier tomorrow if you like as I have been up since U woke me at 2am. Then said I would be back every hour to visit again. If I was going to have my vacation ruined I only wanted them to have the same experience. Sorry no fight just very loud talking. Nothing like a good yelling fest when U have a hangover, and did they ever.LOL Yes I did ask to be moved but cruise full. Oh I sleep soundly usually as I raised 10 kids so U can imagine the noise level to wake me up due to noise. 291. belannatorres August 18th, 2011 @ 9:40 am This was our first cruise with a balcony, and we wanted to leave the curtains open to enjoy the sea view while we slept, but the neighbor’s light was on the first three nights. On the fourth night, I tried knocking on their door about 9 p.m. but received no answer. The cabin steward was in the hall, and I asked him if he could possibly do us a favor. He guessed my request, and said he would go into the cabin and turn off the balcony light. We had no further problems the rest of the cruise. 292. SteveVonGass August 18th, 2011 @ 11:44 am Well Now !! The Topic of Smoke, Brings Me to My Pet Gripe. The Blue Smoke Comming From The Ship’s Exaust Pipes. AKA “the Funnel” My Rear Facing, AFT Balconys, Generally Have a Bad Case of Carbon ASHES , Due to the Ships’ Use of Degraded, Cheaper, Fuel Oil. I Have Learned to Tread Carefully and Avoid Tracking BLACK SOOT Onto My Not So Pristine Cabin Carpets? In Addition to the SOOT Problem, As the Ships’ “BLACK WATER” Cistrens Fill, The Stench Also Fills Certain OutDoor Areas With the Pungent Odor of Human and Food Waste. Now That’s Another “breathTaking” ShipBoard Experience, Along With Door Slamming at All Hours of the Night, Loud TVs and Smoke Issues of Any Kind, Deck Chairs Dragging Sounds. ETC. I Love the People I Meet and Greet OnBoard, but SomeTimes Public Exposure to the Sounds of Life, DisTrac From the Simple Pleasures of a Fine Cruise. Editor: SteveVonGass 293. M Cummings September 8th, 2011 @ 1:53 pm The cruise lines need to wake up. Casinos and Balconies need to be smoke free. There is a designated area on each ship for smoking, use it! A casino can even be seperated into two parts. They do it in many native casinos on land. Balconies need to be sacred private space. Designate one section for smokers and let the rest of us enjoy our exspensive outdoor space in peace. Also, no loud talking or music after 10pm or before 8am please, have a little consideration! Only 27% of the population still smokes so why are we allowing them to ruin our vacation…… 294. katablog.com September 8th, 2011 @ 9:17 pm I have no problem with cruise lines that determine a no smoking rule inside rooms is their policy. I DO have a problem with the no smoking on balconies and I think there should be at least 1 bar that allows smoking. As others have said – some just need to get over themselves. A cruise is still part of the real world and this PC thing against smoking is obnoxious. Yes, you will run into people with bad perfume, horrible aftershave, bad breath, body order, extreme language, rude, loud, etc. That’s the real world. Ignore them and move on! 295. Bill R September 9th, 2011 @ 12:15 pm I realize my comments are about 3 months too late, but really, it seems like everyone who cruises these days is either asthmatic, or allergic to cigarette smoke. I think we should be more concerned that we’re cruising with a bunch of passengers who could die at any moment. And believe me, deaths on a cruise tend to really disrupt the whole agenda. Finally, I wonder how most of these people would have survived had they lived in the 1950′s and 60′s? Everyone smoked, and they did it everywhere (restaurants, bars, offices, airplanes, trains, even movie theaters and grocery stores!). I agree with those who simply move on with their life, and enjoy their vacation no matter what. 296. Sandy September 13th, 2011 @ 4:54 pm I stopped staying on a Balcony because of the smoke plus the smokes goes right into your room, we now only stay in a room with a window. We also notice a room with a window is much quieter. I would gamble if they stopped smoking and my husband gambles as longs as his eyes can stand the smoke, maybe half hour at a time. 297. Lauren September 20th, 2011 @ 3:51 pm Wow…. get over yourselves! Why do most countries hate Americans??? Why, cause we are selfish and think “it’s all about me!” It’s not enough that people who smoke lost almost all their rights, because that’s not enough for selfish people… of course they want more. It’s never going to be enough! What about the poor people we leave at port when our ship leaves. Think of all that polluted air…. do we care??? Of course not! Again, we are Americans – so we have the “it’s all about me” attitudes! Even though we left the people at port breathing in our toxic ship fumes, they should feel fortunate! Why??? Cause us Americans just spent our money there… so who cares??/ As long as we are happy! If you’re that worried about breathing in “polluted” air, then DON’T leave your house! GET OVER YOURSELVES! You are the ones that give Americans the bad name! Shame on you! 298. Darelynn Clay September 21st, 2011 @ 2:57 pm I didn’t read all the comments…that being said…. I think that the people who are complaining …. and therefore bothered … should go out of their way to avoid this situation … even if it means getting an interior or ocean view cabin. Sorry, but this is YOUR problem…and something only you can correct. You have a choice … smokers don’t. OR … travel with a group…and include some non-smokers who aren’t bothered by the smokers… arrange to have rooms together and use them as a buffer. There ARE ways around your problem…you just need to be creative. No, I’m not a smoker, but have friends and family who are, and believe in taking control of my own situation and not expect others to change for MY benefit. 299. KenSD September 21st, 2011 @ 3:56 pm What a bunch of whining, sniveling little creeps. FYI people, balconies are the first thing to sell out so whether you book it or not it will get sold. If you are so unhealthy and sickly that you can’t ‘endure’ someone smoking OUTSIDE then you need to stay home with your oxygen tank. You are probably the same people choking me out in the drive-through with your poison puking SUV right in front of me. @JoelP – There WERE non-smoking cruise lines. They nearly went out of business so your ‘get rid of smoking and make more money’ hypothesis is full of bunk. 300. B .THOMAS September 21st, 2011 @ 6:06 pm Gee, to listen to all complainers,at the end of the day wherever you’re Cabin may be,we all pay our money.This includes “SMOKERS,NON-SMOKERS,DRUNKS,DRINKERS,PEOPLE WHO JUST WANT TO EAT TO GET THEIR MONEYS-WORTH,COMPLAINERS,PROFANITY USERS, PEOPLE OF ALL AGES,BABIES TO ELDERLY PEOPLE,ETC.ETC..IT TAKES ALL KINDS.” EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO DO WHAT THEY WANT WITHIN REASON. SOME OF YOU GUYS NEED TO GET A LIFE WE ARE ALL UNIQUE,NO ONE IS THE SAME. IF YOU DON’T WANT SMOKERS AROUND STAY IN AN INSIDE CABIN STAY AWAY FROM DRUNKS ETC. ETC.,THIS IS A PUBLIC PLACE AND WE NEED TO RESPECT EACH OTHER,WE ALL PAID OUR WAY AND SOME PAY MORE BECAUSE THEY ARE ADDICTED TO CIGARETTES WHO NOW HAVE TO PAY FOR A BALCONY ROOM,AND HAVE DELEGATED AREAS ON THE SHIP.I DON’T SMOKE,DRINK WITHIN REASON AND TRY TO RESPECT OUR DIFFERENT CULTURES,WAYS,ETC.BUT AGAIN THESE VACATIONS ARE NOT FREE,AND YOU NEED TO ENJOY AND QUIT DICTATING,OR MOVE TO RUSSIA. 301. QueenMama September 21st, 2011 @ 11:03 pm LOL! This entire thread is why my partner and I will NEVER cruise, NEVER! I have never heard such whinging in my entire life! It’s like a cul-de-sac neighborhood with 2,000 homes! Smoking? Loud music? Farting? You all HAVE to be kidding me! I’m glad we can afford to go to exclusive resorts all over the world where NONE of you will ever be able to visit! There IS something good about being wealthy…we don’t have to slum it with “cruisers!” LOL! 302. Chaput September 22nd, 2011 @ 11:16 am Reading just a few of these delightfully inarticulate missives, convinces me further that my adopted policy of never being among the great unwashed becomes even more necessary with each passing year. Self-entitled scourges are out of control around the world. The only solution is to enjoy a reasonable distance from anything or anyone hateful. The venom and ignorance in these simple toots—or is it Tweets?—convinces me further that most people are not people I want to know. Or are they the parents of the malignant children who now leer at adults who ask them to go far away? Who are these creeps? It’s rather like being in Russia or Poland with their hordes of proles and grubby trains. Generally, Americans and many Brits, Moslems always, can be enormous pains in the arse behind their strained social drivel. Cruising has never been what it was once cracked up to be. The maladroit, the rude, the hopelessly bemused and sub-literate, the tactless, the phony, the yaboes in “black and red sneakers” are simply numerous and everywhere. If you find yourself clinically allergic to human trash and inedible food and overtly sweet drinkies wearing little umbrellas, why ever do you volunteer for your pain? There are the means to avoid all such affronts. 303. JMC September 27th, 2011 @ 4:28 pm After reading most of these. I can’t believe the complaining and wining that some people do. Your vacation is what you make it not what others are doing. 304. Peppermintz September 29th, 2011 @ 10:49 am Everyone that comes on here to reply are people that cruise. You wouldn’t be on here if you didn’t. I stay at home, my husband works, and we both live above average, but we certainly are not considered rich! We’ve stayed at the resorts, and we’ve cruised numerous times. We’ve flown, drove, and visited a lot of different places. The one reason we cruise every few years is to visit the different islands that we haven’t seen. Even if we’ve been to the island before, we like to try something different that we may have missed the first time. We don’t want to spend an entire week in one place. My husband and I both smoked several years ago, and quit. We were always respectful of others around us. My husband does not like to be around anyone that smokes, but it really doesn’t bother me as long as I’m not enclosed with them. Smoke on a balcony does not blow directly into anyones face, that’s why there are dividers. Smokers need to be respectful, but if your pointing fingers, look at yourself first. We all have our faults and we all have our pet peeves. I love children, but do not like being around children without manners or adult supervision! I know times have changed, but if you don’t want to be around your children, no one else will enjoy being around them either. Most people that smoke do so because it helps to releave anxiety! Their anxiety may have been the result caused by your unrulely off-springs… My point, respect others and they’ll respect you! Have a great time, that’s why they call it a vacation,…. to get away from what annoys you at home!!! 305. aprilk October 4th, 2011 @ 5:28 pm OMG grow up and stay home. I as a smoker paid just as much for my balcony as you did. I have to put up with your children running in the halls. Because they have “so much pent up energy”…I have to notice that you didnt notice your loud husband pick his nose before going into the buffett. or better yet watch him lay on the deck with shorts that should have stayed at home because if he moves his leg his junk will be hanging out. Oh and your perfume…did ya bathe in it because in the elevators it smells as if you did. 306. Nutty Grandad October 5th, 2011 @ 8:19 am All cruise lines should follow MSC and have dedicated areas on deck and certain bars for smokers. No smoking in cabins. Passive smoke I hear some say? Do they not realize that the air they breathe in at home is even more toxic than a little passive smoke on a ship balcony at sea? Oh please…GET REAL! Non-smokers outnumber smokers? Stats prove otherwise! On a recent coach trip with the majority being American, to my surprise when we stopped for fuel we realised that EVERY passenger was a smoker! Then on a recent MSC cruise I was on, the smokers bar was so crouded you could not move and the other bars basically empty! Hmmmmm I did see a lot of drinkers making themselves look silly, but am yet to find a smoker do that whilst smoking! At the end of the day yes, smokers should respect space around others as should non-smokers respect the space around smokers! The sad thing though, is that general society today is not content if not complaining about something or other! So very sad…. 307. Noel October 10th, 2011 @ 4:43 pm In conclusion: manners are sorely lacking in people today. Cruise ships SHOULD have 1 side non-smoking, 1 side smoking but bear in mind, that with the increase in people quitting, any non-smoker that ends up on the smoking side will complain, especially if the ships find that a whole side for the amount of smokers requesting it, isn’t enough to fill that side. Again, it’s all about manners and having been a smoker and an ex-smoker, I have always been polite and conscience of others around me. As for whoever it was that mentioned people doing “the nasty” on the balconies at 1 a.m. and their poor children, etc., etc.? All I can say to that is, your kids should be in bed at that time, vacation or not. 308. Steve October 13th, 2011 @ 1:15 am No smoking on balconies is the best news ever!! I love the comments from smokers who “always respect others when they smoke” – news flash no you don’t!! Your bad habit imposes on my enjoyment during my cruise. 309. Liz October 19th, 2011 @ 4:58 pm We are embarking on our 6th Norwegian Cruise Line cruise in November. We have sailed 3 times in ocean view rooms, but decided on a balcony for #4, and never went back “indoors”, again. We have never had a problem with smoking on the balconies, but maybe there were none. There are signs all over not to throw the butts overboard (they can get sucked into the engines). If the noise and lights bother you, use earplugs and an eye mask – I do, so I don’t care about either. If I ever did have a problem, I would make it known to the cruise line upon returning. I know NCL would be accommodating in some way 310. Jan October 19th, 2011 @ 7:42 pm I am glad to see that Princess will no longer allow smoking on their balconies. Three years ago my husband and I took a Princess cruise to Buenos Aires. What marred the trip for us were the people in the next cabin who smoked on their balcony from morning to night. As I am highly sensivtive to cigarette smoke I went on our balcony and quickly smelled that they were out on the their balcony. I stuck my head arround the corner, trying not to breathe, and introduced myself. Nicely I said that since I am highly sensitive to cigarette smoke could we make some sort of an arrangement. She immediately got angry telling me \I piad for this balcony and I will smoke all I want.\ In addition her companion puffed on vile smelling cigars. We asked for a cabin change but to no avail and, as a result, were not able to use the balcomy for which we paid. We tried to escape to the pool but there again we found a smoker pulluting the air. When we returned home I contacted Princess and told them that until they change their smoking policies we will not cruise with them – and we have kept to our word. 311. Sharon November 2nd, 2011 @ 1:15 pm Husband and I are smokers. No, we’re NOT nasty people. We do respect others and will certainly go out of our way to make sure that no one is bothered by our smoke. However…on our last cruise, we specifically went to the smoking areas on the ship to have our daily cigarette and apparent non-smokers would walk through the clearly marked smoking area and make rude comments to us, call us names, make faces, etc. It was almost comical except for the fact that they were so mean about it. We booked with NCL because they allowed smoking in the rooms. Now that they have changed their policy because of all the complaints, we are forced to smoke on the balcony-which is allowed. Sorry. 312. A.B Normal November 2nd, 2011 @ 3:21 pm As a former smoker I’m sure I offended many people over the years with second hand smoke. But since I quit I have made it a personal policy NOT to make a huge deal of, or attempt to counsel those who continue to smoke. I don’t complain, I simply move. I would ask however, that should we “share” a balcony while cruising that you exercise reasonable caution when disposing of your smoking material. I am a retired firefighter and I don’t want to go back to work. Oh, and another thing . . . should you decide to engage in a “carnal embrace” out on the balcony please know that you are subject to being observed and even applauded if your performance is worthy. Just sayin.’ 313. Pam November 5th, 2011 @ 12:56 pm Get a grip people. This is such nonsense about “my rights”. I think it is BS about people smoking on their balcony and the smoke is blowing into the next door cabins. Come on people we are on a moving ship. I too like to have my privacy and I also pay extra to have a balcony so that I can enjoy my coffee and smokes. Not smoking in the cabin – fine – no problem. But we are outside!!!That is part of the most enjoyable time on a cruise. Watchng the water go by, relaxing on my balcony. Now you people want to take that away too. Just what are you willing to give up? You have most of the ship that is non-smoking – at least let me have my balcony. Go on a smoke free cruise but I bet you will still find something to complain about. 314. Tommy November 7th, 2011 @ 10:02 am Okay, so here’s the real deal. My wife and I both smoke. We are not chain smokers, but do smoke several times a day. We never smoke indoors. That is precisely why we paid extra to have a balcony. We always try to be considerate of others. But, if you complain about our occasional smoke on the balcony, I guarantee you you won’t be sharing a bottle of wine with us! LOL In fact, we may even be so rude as to tell you where to put your thoughts. We know that smoking is not healthy. We know that it offends others. But, the reality is that I started smoking when I was 16 and am now 62. (you do the math!) I have tried to quit several times, but have been unsuccesful. So, my balcony is where I will smoke, whether you like it or not. Sorry folks! 315. Dave December 7th, 2011 @ 11:49 am I won’t bitch about smokers on the balcony if you don’t bitch about me tanning nude on the balcony! 316. Eileen Mackey December 7th, 2011 @ 8:51 pm For those of you who complain that smoking ruined your vacation – rejoice, for there’s now one less smoker on the high seas. I took my first cruise ever this past February, and liked it so much (besides all the kids everywhere, drunks, and tacky gambling) that I went on a second one in August. As I was booking my 3rd cruise, I noticed that Carnival will be banning smoking in cabins as of 1/1/12. As I pay the same full-fare you do (and even if it was reduced) I won’t be booking anymore. I won’t be told that I can’t smoke in the privacy of my own room. 317. John December 29th, 2011 @ 1:04 pm Sorry if many of you non-smokers disagree with me but I think the more cruise lines look for ways to ban or ween out smoking, they will lose a lot of money over a long period of time and regret it (It happened on the Carnival Paradise). People like me who have been on 30+ cruises will begin to revisit the island all-inclusive vacations again. Believe it or not, I’m a non-smoker but not once have I ever complained about other pax’s smoking on their own private balcony. I’m so tired of extreme measures and having to compromise a cruise vacation because of smoking bans. 318. justin January 1st, 2012 @ 10:59 am My main concren, is the tossing of butts, I am an non-smoker, and in a neighbourly fashion will not complain about the occassional smoker, now 2 or 3 pack a day, might be harder to take. One cabin’s non-smoker started burning incense, when the smoke became over whelming, the smoker asked the incense burner to stop, the response was a great compromise, The smoker’s ageed to keep the balcony smoke free, for periods of the day and the non-smoker kept the doors closed or simply realized everyone has rights, and that the smoker was doing a good job, trying. 319. Helen L January 21st, 2012 @ 6:21 pm I am a smoker. I have been a smoker for over 40 years. I am not ashamed of the fact. I enjoy smoking. I also know that others are not smokers and do not like the smell of my smoke. Even though I am really computer illiterate I have spent countless hours searching for a cruise ship that is sailing to where I want to be, on the days that I want to go and allows smoking on the balcony. Finding what I wanted I booked a cruise. So be warned! I will be smoking on my balcony every morning while enjoying my coffee and every evening while having my nightcap. If I can do my research and find what makes me happy why can’t you? If the smell of smoke bothers you so much, why have you booked on this ship. It took me hours to find a cruise that allows smoking on the balcony. It should only take you a second to find a cruise with no-smoking balconies. It’s like the woman who plopped herself down next to me in a clearly posted designated smoking area and then complained when I lit a cigarette. Two words. GET OUT! 320. Bjoy @ Best Cruise Lines January 23rd, 2012 @ 1:43 am I smoke but not in public places. I experience being shouted by some fellow cruise liners. But it seems that you can’t really resist to smoke specially when a pretty lady asks you and say this words “Can we go for a smoke?” Well come to think of it this leads to something really wonderful. This happened when i took a cruise from one of the best cruise lines in Alaska route. 321. Cruiser February 10th, 2012 @ 7:35 pm Wow! Can’t believe all of these comments. Took our first cruise ever last May and paid about17,000 USD for a suite with balcony, just so I could smoke OUTSIDE. I agree, know it’s unhealthy,blah,blah blah. However, I enjoy it, paid for the ability to do it, and now I’m sure all of you non-smokers will be happy to know, won’t be going again, can’t find a smoke friendly cruise. why don’t they make a cruise line just for smokers? Smoking, drinking and overeating are addictions. Drinkers and overeaters are okay, but smoking isn’t? I am personally disgusted by viewing fat people make gluttons of themselves, taking up two seats on an airplane, or on a tender boat to shore, not to mention the guy or gal having too many festive beverages and throwing up in the hallway.
There is no right answer here folks. Live and let live.

322. John - Young Adult Cruiser
June 29th, 2012 @ 7:30 am

Wow, did you really spend $17.000 for a suite just so you can smoke? Last summer I took one of those cruises for couples as I went with my fiance, but it didnt cost me more than$3.500, and I only paid so much as it was sort of engagement present. I would never spend that much money for a vacation, even if I could afford it.

323. Anonymous
July 10th, 2012 @ 4:13 am

forgot one small thing..were not spending over 6.000.00 for 2 balcony rooms beside each other not being able to do what we like on our private balcony..it may take a huge decline in ship sailing for the cruise lines to re-think but we shall see.who knows but i just want some relaxing quiet fun days at sea.if not,i might have to go back to the fun ships(carnival) or holland.

324. Mike
August 28th, 2012 @ 8:35 am

Perhaps if you choose to go on a cruises to nowhere, good behaving on a suite balcony is a must…cuz youll be on board for the entire cruise.

325. janie
January 11th, 2013 @ 9:55 pm

Filthy cigarette smokers are why G*d created water balloons! Try to give me cancer with Your second hand smoke and I am going to protest.

326. Steve
January 30th, 2013 @ 6:49 am

Jesus! You should listen to yourselves. Consider yourself lucky you don’t smoke! Smokers are addicted, so give them a break. Non-smokers, I have found are the most pious bunch of humans on planet earth! I witnessed a couple having sex on the balcony below me, which was probably illegal, but I didn’t complain about it. I just thought ‘good for them’. You need to wake up and smell the coffee, it ain’t all about you! Thanks for listening…..

327. Elise
May 30th, 2013 @ 9:40 am

Steve, you must have meant, “Wake up and smell the smoke…”

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